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Old 03-16-2020, 04:34 PM
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Not sure how I feel about this. I don’t typically like giving up a high pick and immediately having to pay a guy top money. I’m not sure they wouldn’t have been better off in the long run taking a DT in the draft with one of the top two pics. Damn good player though.
Agreed - we paid a lot for him and a risky move. In comparison to the Hopkins trade earlier, looks like a comparative overpay BUT we are getting a premium guy coming into his prime, so these guys rarely available via trade and never available in free agency. No other way to get him if you believe he's an Aaron Donald-caliber player (also, I'd like to see the terms of the $21M/year contract). But still, no doubt a bold and risky move.
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Old 03-16-2020, 04:42 PM
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Agreed - we paid a lot for him and a risky move. In comparison to the Hopkins trade earlier, looks like a comparative overpay BUT we are getting a premium guy coming into his prime, so these guys rarely available via trade and never available in free agency. No other way to get him if you believe he's an Aaron Donald-caliber player (also, I'd like to see the terms of the $21M/year contract). But still, no doubt a bold and risky move.
I don't see the risk. No guarantee the 13th pick will even pan out. Also, the guy you want at #13 might not even be there. The colts haven't been able to stop the run up the middle or collapse the pocket with an interior pass rush in a quite a while. Now they have a young, proven player.

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How did the Colts do with Booger McFarland?
Huh? Considerably different situations.

And I’m not hugely down on the trade. I can see the logic and the talent, but I certainly have concerns. Namely the cost of such a high pick AND a $21 / yr contract. Surprisingly this looks like win now mode to me. This a sign it is Rivers?
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Quick thought - I like the trade. I was thinking Kinlaw at 13 but there was no guarantee he would be there or become what we would expect. We get a proven guy in his prime years at a spot that was sorely needed.
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Huh? Considerably different situations.

And I’m not hugely down on the trade. I can see the logic and the talent, but I certainly have concerns. Namely the cost of such a high pick AND a $21 / yr contract. Surprisingly this looks like win now mode to me. This a sign it is Rivers?
If they sign rivers, then ok. But I hope its for 2 or less years and doesnt break the bank.
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Agreed - we paid a lot for him and a risky move. In comparison to the Hopkins trade earlier, looks like a comparative overpay BUT we are getting a premium guy coming into his prime, so these guys rarely available via trade and never available in free agency. No other way to get him if you believe he's an Aaron Donald-caliber player (also, I'd like to see the terms of the $21M/year contract). But still, no doubt a bold and risky move.
Definitely can’t use the Hopkins trade as a comparison - that was just plain robbery. I think it’s fair from a talent perspective, I’m just surprised they made the move now, I guess.
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Old 03-16-2020, 04:49 PM
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I don't see the risk. No guarantee the 13th pick will even pan out. Also, the guy you want at #13 might not even be there.
It's risky for the reasons RM1369 said - we are giving up a first and paying the guy full market rates. And we don't know him as well as we know our own free agents, so that's a bit of a wild card as well, not to mention the fact that you never know how a guy will react to receiving this kind of money. So I think it's risky for a lot of reasons.
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It's risky for the reasons RM1369 said - we are giving up a first and paying the guy full market rates. And we don't know him as well as we know our own free agents, so that's a bit of a wild card as well, not to mention the fact that you never know how a guy will react to receiving this kind of money. So I think it's risky for a lot of reasons.
The cap will go up. They have room for $$ and a QB maybe next year?
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Old 03-16-2020, 04:55 PM
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It's risky for the reasons RM1369 said - we are giving up a first and paying the guy full market rates. And we don't know him as well as we know our own free agents, so that's a bit of a wild card as well, not to mention the fact that you never know how a guy will react to receiving this kind of money. So I think it's risky for a lot of reasons.
Which free agents on defense the colts have are worth resigning?
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I hope this doesn't mean Ballard is going to give Rivers a blank check. I hope this does mean Ballard is pursuing Bridgewater.
Rivers only wants to play for two more years. We will still have to find a QB. Rivers is a stopgap.
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