The overthrow to Hilton

[Kray007]

Originally Posted by Oldcolt

I wouldn't argue on this play. Overall how do you see Wentz' accuracy? Am I to harsh?

The frustrating thing about Wentz is that, in the same game, he can demonstrate both pinpoint accuracy and unnerving inconsistency.

He isn’t a Quarterback who thrives under pressure, standing tall in the pocket to deliver pinpoint strikes with defenders hanging all over him.

But, then again, how many of those are there?

If he’s going to excel, Chris Ballard needs to add a few things to the roster. He needs to find a true bookend LT, an upgrade over Glowinski, the next TY Hilton, and a weapon at TE.

I think that Wentz has the talent to take us to the promised land. But, he isn’t good enough to pick us up and carry us there.

[omahacolt]

Originally Posted by Puck

I dont think TY was at fault. I think it was just mis communication between the two. They were both right. They were just on different pages

ty's job is to get open. he did it.


wentz's job is to throw him the ball. he didn't do that.


just throw him the fucking ball. i understand a wr and qb not being on the same page for an option route or if a player doesn't sit down in the zone and its incomplete.

ty was wide the fuck open. just throw it to him. put it right on his fucking numbers.

[apballin]

No I just watched hard knocks, showed a few different angles, TY threw his hand up he never slowed up he looked back and threw his hand up

He just missed the throw

But after watching hard knocks it was clear the Covid situation had them rattled

[Puck]

Saw this from on Baldy Breakdowns. TY did not slow down Wentz missed him. And a lot of throws in this game It's at 4:37

https://www.nfl.com/videos/how-colts...y-s-breakdowns

[ChaosTheory]

Originally Posted by apballin

No I just watched hard knocks, showed a few different angles, TY threw his hand up he never slowed up he looked back and threw his hand up

He just missed the throw

But after watching hard knocks it was clear the Covid situation had them rattled

I watched it, too. Maybe they embellished it a little for tv, but they were definitely thrown off during the week.

As for the Hilton miss... I can't help but think back to the heyday and how Manning, Harrison, and eventually Wayne would do stuff like run the entire route tree pregame. Like a final tuning of what you know they grinded during the week.

Like, this is exactly how this route feels every time. This speed, this velocity, this timing. I wish our guys would be more like that. Maybe it's another way Manning spoiled us too much.

[TheMugwump]

Originally Posted by ChaosTheory

I can't help but think back to the heyday and how Manning, Harrison, and eventually Wayne would do stuff like run the entire route tree pregame. Like a final tuning of what you know they grinded during the week.

Maybe it's another way Manning spoiled us too much.

It totally is.

[Kray007]

Originally Posted by Puck

Saw this from on Baldy Breakdowns. TY did not slow down Wentz missed him. And a lot of throws in this game It's at 4:37

https://www.nfl.com/videos/how-colts...y-s-breakdowns

At the exact moment Hilton slows down, the video morphs into slow mo. Its not much of a slowdown, but it happens right around the time he raises his hand and waves for the ball

[YDFL Commish]

Originally Posted by Kray007

At the exact moment Hilton slows down, the video morphs into slow mo. Its not much of a slowdown, but it happens right around the time he raises his hand and waves for the ball

If TY slowed down at all, it was very minimal and probably due to the fact that he was so wide open that he was trying to present an easier target.

The incompletion is still 99% on Wentz because when I player is that wide open you just make the easy completion instead of the perfect completion.

[Puck]

Originally Posted by Kray007

At the exact moment Hilton slows down, the video morphs into slow mo. Its not much of a slowdown, but it happens right around the time he raises his hand and waves for the ball

I think you have a bad camera angle just like I did at first Wentz threw a bad ball

[Chromeburn]

These are the same exact conversations Eagles fans had about Wentz. He’s inaccurate, he’s a rollercoaster, it’s his line, it’s his receivers, etc.

Seems half of Twitter thinks he is the problem and the other half thinks the team needs to be better in some way.

Here is how I see it. Wentz was never known for his accuracy. He hovers around the 60-62 mark in completions. This was my main worry about getting him. I think accuracy is the most important QB trait. Wentz also holds the ball at about 2.5 seconds per snap. They puts him at the bottom of the league with some other QBs. Also, his mechanics are not pretty right now. You watch his lead foot and it is not pointing at his intended receivers. That throw to Hilton, foot was pointing at the logo in the center of the field. He then tries to compensate with arm strength and power through the bad mechanics. That’s why the throw went over his head, there was no touch on the throw. Finally, his decision making is pretty bad. Especially when he scrambled out of the pocket. The TD to Hilton was pure luck, he should have thrown to an open Doyle underneath. He should have ran when he tried that cross body throw to Big Mo. he has kept his int’s down, although he does have some fumbles.

The receivers do need to improve. They are apparently one of the bottom groups in the entire NFL in creating separation from the defender. Like bottom three. That is a tough crew for an inaccurate QB to work with.

Things in his favor. The defense is the highest turnover defense in the entire league. So opportunities happen all the time. He has a top ten oline and the top running game in the league.

When it comes down to it, can Wentz be consistent enough to win a Super Bowl? He doesn’t seem to elevate his teammates but in fact needs all the pieces in place for him to excel.