Indiana badasses

[Racehorse]

Originally Posted by JAFF

He isnt the problem, its the mentally disturbed 18 year old who got his gun with no restrictions.

We need to outlaw mental illnesses to solve this problem.

[Hoopsdoc]

Originally Posted by JAFF

He isnt the problem, its the mentally disturbed 18 year old who got his gun with no restrictions.

No, we need to figure out why our society is suddenly churning out kids like this, who have nothing to believe in and a hatred for everything.

But no one wants to have that conversation.

It’s just so much easier to blame the gun.

[Lov2fish]

Originally Posted by JAFF

He isnt the problem, its the mentally disturbed 18 year old who got his gun with no restrictions.

He had to pass a background check to get the gun. He hadn't been adjudicated by a court, so nothing was done to prevent him from getting it. Indiana being a constitutional carry state does not mean any and everyone can own a gun. If you were legally prohibited before, you are legally prohibited still. You still must be vetted so if you have no red flags in your history you will get to exercise your right to own a gun.

Also contrary to the lefts rallying cry and go to, you can not order a gun online and have it shipped to your house. That is flat out false. Yes, you can buy a gun online, but it must be shipped to an FFL dealer in your state where you are required to present ID and pass a background check.

[rcubed]

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc

No, we need to figure out why our society is suddenly churning out kids like this, who have nothing to believe in and a hatred for everything.

But no one wants to have that conversation.

It’s just so much easier to blame the gun.

Yes, it is easier. No guns=no shootings. Why is that so hard to comprehend

[JAFF]

Originally Posted by Lov2fish

He had to pass a background check to get the gun. He hadn't been adjudicated by a court, so nothing was done to prevent him from getting it. Indiana being a constitutional carry state does not mean any and everyone can own a gun. If you were legally prohibited before, you are legally prohibited still. You still must be vetted so if you have no red flags in your history you will get to exercise your right to own a gun.

Also contrary to the lefts rallying cry and go to, you can not order a gun online and have it shipped to your house. That is flat out false. Yes, you can buy a gun online, but it must be shipped to an FFL dealer in your state where you are required to present ID and pass a background check.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...k-private-sale

Loop hole

[JAFF]

Originally Posted by rcubed

Yes, it is easier. No guns=no shootings. Why is that so hard to comprehend

Im not sure you can collect all the guns. There are some that should be restricted. A criminal/crazy shouldnt be better armed than the police.

[Lov2fish]

Originally Posted by JAFF

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...k-private-sale

Loop hole

Its not a loophole. It has always been this way, as it should. What two private individuals do between each other is none of the governments business. All gun laws are infringements.

Back to Eli and his heroism. He ended the threat in 15 seconds. He got off ten rounds and eight hit the target from 30 feet with zero collateral damage. The shooter exited the bathroom at 5:56: 48 and opened fire. He met his maker at 5:57:03. That is impressive for anyone, let alone a 22 year old who just started carrying after Indiana's constitutional carry took effect. I am absolutely positive he has trained far longer than that. He is a victim here as well. Taking a human life comes with mental anguish most can't fathom. I hope he seeks the proper healing.

[Hoopsdoc]

Originally Posted by rcubed

Yes, it is easier. No guns=no shootings. Why is that so hard to comprehend

And how exactly are you going to get rid of all the guns without screwing over guys like me, who have never hurt a soul with a gun and never will?

Sorry, but I refuse to relinquish my rights because some people can’t play nice. Thats never going to happen.

[rcubed]

Thats where the problem lies. No way you can remove all the guns, I am not unrealistic.

But I don’t understand why anyone needs anything near an assault rifle. Let alone a young male (18 in uvalde, 20 in IN) who buys 2 AR-15 style rifles within 2 days.

I agree with people when they say there are mental health issues that are not dealt with. But it also seems a lot easier to not sell these types of weapons meant to kill quickly in large amounts than it is to try to identify and deal with all the crazies.

[rcubed]

Originally Posted by Lov2fish

All gun laws are infringements.

All? So no restrictions. Anyone can buy and carry any type of gun at any time?