Analytics- Ryan V Wentz - ColtFreaks.com

Lov2fish · #1 06-29-2022, 07:25 PM

This guys has some great stats and break down of QB versus QB.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfpG6h6XNoU

Colts And Orioles · #2 06-29-2022, 09:15 PM

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I believe that Ryan will have a good season with the Colts, and that Wentz will have a good season with the Commanders/Redskins ...... if that comes to fruition, everybody will be happy (at least Colts fans and Washington fans will be.)

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Indystu2 · #3 07-09-2022, 12:43 PM

Wonder how some of those stats are collected and measured, but an interesting listen.

Chromeburn · #4 07-09-2022, 02:13 PM

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Wonder how some of those stats are collected and measured, but an interesting listen.

It’s just basic analytics. You can get them through next gen stats I believe which does them for the NFL.

nate505 · #5 07-23-2022, 01:25 PM

I went from being completely "meh" on the Ryan signing at first to being downright thrilled that he's here. Mostly because I thought at the time he was over the hill, but now I believe he's not as over the hill as I perceived him to be.

YDFL Commish · #6 07-23-2022, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by nate505

I went from being completely "meh" on the Ryan signing at first to being downright thrilled that he's here. Mostly because I thought at the time he was over the hill, but now I believe he's not as over the hill as I perceived him to be.

This isn't like signing Rivers, who never had an arm to begin with. Ryan has also never had an injury history, so there is plenty of tread left on the tires.

ChaosTheory · #7 07-24-2022, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish

This isn't like signing Rivers, who never had an arm to begin with. Ryan has also never had an injury history, so there is plenty of tread left on the tires.

People like to bring up the comparison with Rivers to the Colts in 2020, which is understandable. But I keep looking more to an example like Manning to Denver in 2012.

Manning turned 36 in March before the 2012 season (Ryan just turned 37). He wasn't the same athlete he was in IND, but even with his age and neck/nerve issue, he had plenty in the tank to lead roster that was just missing a QB (and the offense was stellar for three seasons).

Denver's D was solid and the offense had some guys that didn't explode onto the scene until Manning arrived. Demaryius Thomas was a third-year guy with a career high of 551yds and Eric Decker was a third-year guy with a career high of 612yds. They had 1400+ and 1000+ respectively in 2012.

I'm not claiming Ryan is as good as Manning or that we have a Thomas-Decker tandem or claiming any other 1:1 comparisons with those teams... I'm just saying there are some similarities. There's no reason to think Ryan is old/broken and can't make an exponential difference for individual players and the team as a whole.

JAFF · #8 07-24-2022, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ChaosTheory

People like to bring up the comparison with Rivers to the Colts in 2020, which is understandable. But I keep looking more to an example like Manning to Denver in 2012.

Manning turned 36 in March before the 2012 season (Ryan just turned 37). He wasn't the same athlete he was in IND, but even with his age and neck/nerve issue, he had plenty in the tank to lead roster that was just missing a QB (and the offense was stellar for three seasons).

Denver's D was solid and the offense had some guys that didn't explode onto the scene until Manning arrived. Demaryius Thomas was a third-year guy with a career high of 551yds and Eric Decker was a third-year guy with a career high of 612yds. They had 1400+ and 1000+ respectively in 2012.

I'm not claiming Ryan is as good as Manning or that we have a Thomas-Decker tandem or claiming any other 1:1 comparisons with those teams... I'm just saying there are some similarities. There's no reason to think Ryan is old/broken and can't make an exponential difference for individual players and the team as a whole.

IF the O line stays relatively healthy, the run game will make it hard to double any one receiver. Plus, the running backs need to be targeted early and often. Ryan has a history of distributing the ball to the open guy.

Lov2fish · #9 07-24-2022, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ChaosTheory

People like to bring up the comparison with Rivers to the Colts in 2020, which is understandable. But I keep looking more to an example like Manning to Denver in 2012.

Manning turned 36 in March before the 2012 season (Ryan just turned 37). He wasn't the same athlete he was in IND, but even with his age and neck/nerve issue, he had plenty in the tank to lead roster that was just missing a QB (and the offense was stellar for three seasons).

Denver's D was solid and the offense had some guys that didn't explode onto the scene until Manning arrived. Demaryius Thomas was a third-year guy with a career high of 551yds and Eric Decker was a third-year guy with a career high of 612yds. They had 1400+ and 1000+ respectively in 2012.

I'm not claiming Ryan is as good as Manning or that we have a Thomas-Decker tandem or claiming any other 1:1 comparisons with those teams... I'm just saying there are some similarities. There's no reason to think Ryan is old/broken and can't make an exponential difference for individual players and the team as a whole.

Manning also went 1-1 in Super Bowls with the Donkeys!
I will be extremely ecstatic if Ryan went 1-1 in Super Bowls with the Colts! Of course it would be orgasmic if he went 2-0, or 3-0. Hey a guy can dream....

YDFL Commish · #10 07-24-2022, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ChaosTheory

People like to bring up the comparison with Rivers to the Colts in 2020, which is understandable. But I keep looking more to an example like Manning to Denver in 2012.

Manning turned 36 in March before the 2012 season (Ryan just turned 37). He wasn't the same athlete he was in IND, but even with his age and neck/nerve issue, he had plenty in the tank to lead roster that was just missing a QB (and the offense was stellar for three seasons).

Denver's D was solid and the offense had some guys that didn't explode onto the scene until Manning arrived. Demaryius Thomas was a third-year guy with a career high of 551yds and Eric Decker was a third-year guy with a career high of 612yds. They had 1400+ and 1000+ respectively in 2012.

I'm not claiming Ryan is as good as Manning or that we have a Thomas-Decker tandem or claiming any other 1:1 comparisons with those teams... I'm just saying there are some similarities. There's no reason to think Ryan is old/broken and can't make an exponential difference for individual players and the team as a whole.

I agree. But, Ryan has a stronger arm than the 2012 version of Manning.

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