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ore competitive pay — not lowering standards for educators — should be a key part of addressing a national teacher shortage, Education Secretary Miguel Cardona said Sunday on CBS' "Face the Nation."

"Our students need more now, not less … I do not support lowering any standards for qualifications with teachers," Education Secretary Miguel Cardona said.
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"Our students need more now, not less … I do not support lowering any standards for qualifications with teachers," Education Secretary Miguel Cardona said.
“Unless we're serious about providing competitive salaries for our educators, better working conditions, so that they can continue to grow ... we're going to constantly deal with shortage issues, especially in our areas that are harder to teach or where there are less candidates," Cardona told host Margaret Brennan.

Teachers should also have a voice in the "process of reopening and reimagining our schools," Cardona said.

The secretary addressed states that have lowered standards for educators to recruit more staff, calling the measures "unfortunate."

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Arizona no longer requires teachers to have a bachelor's degree, and Florida is offering temporary teaching credentials to veterans without certifications.

"Our students need more now, not less … I do not support lowering any standards for qualifications with teachers," Cardona said.

The United States is facing a national shortage of 300,000 teachers and school staff, according to the National Education Association.

New Hampshire Gov. Chris Sununu, a Republican, defended streamlining processes to certify teachers, saying he detested "the rigmarole" that slowed things down.

"Streamlining the regulatory and permitting and certification processes, whether it's teachers or manufacturers, that's an opportunity every state has," he said on "Fox News Sunday." "We're doing it here. We're streamlining our whole thing."
Things that school corp., state, and federal could do.

1. Pay them as college graduates, not some one with an AA.

2. Return severance, funded at state level. 20 + years ago, Most IN schools stopped rewarding teachers who stayed for X number of years. You got a pay out at the end of your career which would increase your final salary level, which has a direct effect on their retirement.

3. Pay them $ X for every day the dont use, which you have them in the room more often and use less subs over the year. Because there is no reward for saving sick days, if you dont use your sick days, you lose them.

4. Encourage teachers to “profesionalize” their teacher license. Basically, you move to a higher pay scale, going back and taking college hours and getting a MA or MS degree. There are fewer kids in smaller schools in Indiana who can earn AP credits, the instructors do not have a MS in their area of study, required by Advanced Placement.

Bottom line, you get what you pay for.
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Things that school corp., state, and federal could do.

1. Pay them as college graduates, not some one with an AA.

2. Return severance, funded at state level. 20 + years ago, Most IN schools stopped rewarding teachers who stayed for X number of years. You got a pay out at the end of your career which would increase your final salary level, which has a direct effect on their retirement.

3. Pay them $ X for every day the dont use, which you have them in the room more often and use less subs over the year. Because there is no reward for saving sick days, if you dont use your sick days, you lose them.

4. Encourage teachers to “profesionalize” their teacher license. Basically, you move to a higher pay scale, going back and taking college hours and getting a MA or MS degree. There are fewer kids in smaller schools in Indiana who can earn AP credits, the instructors do not have a MS in their area of study, required by Advanced Placement.

Bottom line, you get what you pay for.
Department of education is the most unconstitutional form of government.

Over half of Indiana's budget is allocated for education. The problem is not funding (At least not here) it is the districts who stack their employment with administration positions. This is also where teacher raises are approved and allocated, not from the state. Many are not aware of this. I never understood why the teachers protested at the state house. They can't give them a raise, only their district can. All the money thrown at education in this state and kids get dumber. Find the root of the problem and correct it. That is not more tax increases.
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Department of education is the most unconstitutional form of government.

Over half of Indiana's budget is allocated for education. The problem is not funding (At least not here) it is the districts who stack their employment with administration positions. This is also where teacher raises are approved and allocated, not from the state. Many are not aware of this. I never understood why the teachers protested at the state house. They can't give them a raise, only their district can. All the money thrown at education in this state and kids get dumber. Find the root of the problem and correct it. That is not more tax increases.
The State last year mandated school corps raise bottom pay scale to $40,000 across the state. Small low population counties / rural school corp are struggling to raise enough revenue. Right now the state of Indiana has a HUGE $$ surplus. Time to invest in the children across the state. BTW, the disparity in pay between large corporations and smaller rural schools creates a system where small schools are constantly losing veteran teachers and now hire new, unexperienced people to fill in. Oh, and it is getting to the point where people without any educational experience are put into classrooms.

The state can get teachers more money. Every school corporation gets some form of state support.
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The problem is not funding (At least not here) it is the districts who stack their employment with administration positions. This is also where teacher raises are approved and allocated, not from the state. Many are not aware of this. I never understood why the teachers protested at the state house. They can't give them a raise, only their district can. All the money thrown at education in this state and kids get dumber. Find the root of the problem and correct it. That is not more tax increases.
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The State last year mandated school corps raise bottom pay scale to $40,000 across the state. Small low population counties / rural school corp are struggling to raise enough revenue. Right now the state of Indiana has a HUGE $$ surplus. Time to invest in the children across the state. BTW, the disparity in pay between large corporations and smaller rural schools creates a system where small schools are constantly losing veteran teachers and now hire new, unexperienced people to fill in. Oh, and it is getting to the point where people without any educational experience are put into classrooms.

The state can get teachers more money. Every school corporation gets some form of state support.
You are both correct. Here in Tennessee, the more rural areas cannot afford what the metro areas can, so there is a huge salary discrepancy. However, the smaller rural areas do pack their administration with so many people and leaving the classrooms to struggle. Here, we have a school of between 1000 and 1500 kids. We have four guidance counselors, five principals and two instructional coaches. On top of that, we have several supervisors in the Central Office that bring nothing of substance to the classroom. Our county has two high schools, with county elementary and city elementary schools feeding into both. Both city systems have their own central office staff. You could say the county schools are wasting well over $1M in central office salaries and benefits. Do you think the schools would be able to pay teachers better if this were spread out amongst the teachers?
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You are both correct. Here in Tennessee, the more rural areas cannot afford what the metro areas can, so there is a huge salary discrepancy. However, the smaller rural areas do pack their administration with so many people and leaving the classrooms to struggle. Here, we have a school of between 1000 and 1500 kids. We have four guidance counselors, five principals and two instructional coaches. On top of that, we have several supervisors in the Central Office that bring nothing of substance to the classroom. Our county has two high schools, with county elementary and city elementary schools feeding into both. Both city systems have their own central office staff. You could say the county schools are wasting well over $1M in central office salaries and benefits. Do you think the schools would be able to pay teachers better if this were spread out amongst the teachers?
Absolutely agree.

The crazy part of public schools is how they pay administrators. The further up the position and pay scale, the farther they get from the students. Hire a business manager to run the school corp, watch the money, and keep education decisions to the educators. Principals should be in classrooms every day, at extra curricular and after school practices. They get bogged down bs paper work that some one with a business degree could handle.

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