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Dolphins might be tanking for Justin Herbert or Tua. The top qb prospect Trevor Lawrence isn't draft eligible until 2021
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Rumors are they are going after him as soon as FA starts. I don’t know how they will sign him, but they are going to try.
I saw that. Wonder where they plan to get the cap space.
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I saw that. Wonder where they plan to get the cap space.
They will probably trade some of the problem children they have there. They did not handle success well.

Still drafting a QB would be the cheaper way to go, but I guess their window slips while he is developing.
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They will probably trade some of the problem children they have there. They did not handle success well.

Still drafting a QB would be the cheaper way to go, but I guess their window slips while he is developing.
Cut some? I know the money is different when you cut somebody, but I suppose they will eat a bunch of $$ no matter what?
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Rumors are they are going after him as soon as FA starts. I don’t know how they will sign him, but they are going to try.
I don’t have a ton of time but here is a quick and dirty on JAX cap situation:

$188.200m = NFL 2019 Salary Cap
$011.600m = Rollover from 2018 for JAX
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$199.800m = 2019 JAX Salary Cap

$197.057m = Current contracts for top 51 players
$005.515m = Projected draft pool (projected draft cap hits minus 7x players make cap minimum)
$002.478m = Dead money
$001.200m = Spots 52 / 53 on regular season roster
$001.200m = 10-man practice squad
$003.000m = 2019 in season “churn” space
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$210.450m = 2019 JAX Obligations

Free Cap Space = - 10.650m

Obviously, right now, every projection is going to show them under the salary cap because the draft class, spots 52 & 53, practice squad and churn space don’t count yet. But they will…..they will.

So, to realistically sign Foles, they need to account for all their 2019 expenditures AND have a minimum of $20m in free cap space to sign him….all without wrecking the team.

Top JAX 2019 free agents:
WR Donte Moncrief
TE Austin Seferian-Jenkins
TE James O’Shaughnessy
RB Corey Grant
RB T.J. Yeldon
OG A.J. Cann

Some guys there that are probably starters if they had not ended the season on IR (Moncrief, Seferian-Jenkins, Cann) so if they re-sign any of those guys, they need to create more space to do so.

Top 10 cap savings if cut:
$11.000m = DT Malik Jackson
$09.500m = DE Calais Campbell
$09.406m = CB A.J. Bouye
$07.450m = FS Tashaun Gipson
$06.000m = RT Jermey Parnell
$05.781m = OC Brandon Linder
$04.700m = RB Carlos Hyde
$04.500m = QB Blake Bortles
$04.130m = LB Telvin Smith
$04.000m = DT Taven Bryan

Cutting folks outright saves the most cap space but also wrecks the team.

They can do more of what they did with Marcell Dareus. They converted $5.000m of his 2019 salary into a signing bonus in order to spread it over the 2 remaining years of his deal (2019 and 2020) in order to spread the cap hit evenly and save $2.500m against the cap. That got them under the salary cap at the start of the NFL season (barely).

Andrew Norwell – 4 years remaining on contract. Convert $10m of his $13m 2019 salary into signing bonus and spread for an additional cap hit of $2.5m in 2019/2020/2021/2022 while saving $7.5m in 2019.

A.J. Boyue – 3 years remaining on contract. Convert $12m of his $13m 2019 salary into signing bonus and spread for an additional cap hit of $4m in 2019/2020/2021 while saving $8m in 2019.

Blake Bortles – 2 years remaining on contract. Convert $10m of his $14m 2019 salary into signing bonus and spread for an additional cap hit of $5m in 2019/2020 while saving $5m in 2019. OR….cut to save $4.5m.

Malik Jackson – 3 years remaining on contract. Convert $12m of his $13m 2019 salary into signing bonus and spread for an additional cap hit of $4m in 2019/2020/2021 while saving $8m in 2019.

That is around $28m in cap space created to get them out of the hole and sign Foles. There is more they would have to do in order to keep their team intact, but you get the point.

Obviously, this is only making the problem worse into the future but I think that JAX could chose to do this for 2019 and 2020 before it all falls apart in 2021 and you are looking at a MAJOR salary and talent dump and rebuild. 2 year window for them to compete with their current talent.

So, if JAX wants Foles, they can afford him by pushing a lot of cap obligations into the future while at the same time keeping their team together. For one or two seasons.

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I don’t have a ton of time but here is a quick and dirty on JAX cap situation:

$188.200m = NFL 2019 Salary Cap
$011.600m = Rollover from 2018 for JAX
===========
$199.800m = 2019 JAX Salary Cap

$197.057m = Current contracts for top 51 players
$005.515m = Projected draft pool (projected draft cap hits minus 7x players make cap minimum)
$002.478m = Dead money
$001.200m = Spots 52 / 53 on regular season roster
$001.200m = 10-man practice squad
$003.000m = 2019 in season “churn” space
============
$210.450m = 2019 JAX Obligations

Free Cap Space = - 10.650m

Obviously, right now, every projection is going to show them under the salary cap because the draft class, spots 52 & 53, practice squad and churn space don’t count yet. But they will…..they will.

So, to realistically sign Foles, they need to account for all their 2019 expenditures AND have a minimum of $20m in free cap space to sign him….all without wrecking the team.

Top JAX 2019 free agents:
WR Donte Moncrief
TE Austin Seferian-Jenkins
TE James O’Shaughnessy
RB Corey Grant
RB T.J. Yeldon
OG A.J. Cann

Some guys there that are probably starters if they had not ended the season on IR (Moncrief, Seferian-Jenkins, Cann) so if they re-sign any of those guys, they need to create more space to do so.

Top 10 cap savings if cut:
$11.000m = DT Malik Jackson
$09.500m = DE Calais Campbell
$09.406m = CB A.J. Bouye
$07.450m = FS Tashaun Gipson
$06.000m = RT Jermey Parnell
$05.781m = OC Brandon Linder
$04.700m = RB Carlos Hyde
$04.500m = QB Blake Bortles
$04.130m = LB Telvin Smith
$04.000m = DT Taven Bryan

Cutting folks outright saves the most cap space but also wrecks the team.

They can do more of what they did with Marcell Dareus. They converted $5.000m of his 2019 salary into a signing bonus in order to spread it over the 2 remaining years of his deal (2019 and 2020) in order to spread the cap hit evenly and save $2.500m against the cap. That got them under the salary cap at the start of the NFL season (barely).

Andrew Norwell – 4 years remaining on contract. Convert $10m of his $13m 2019 salary into signing bonus and spread for an additional cap hit of $2.5m in 2019/2020/2021/2022 while saving $7.5m in 2019.

A.J. Boyue – 3 years remaining on contract. Convert $12m of his $13m 2019 salary into signing bonus and spread for an additional cap hit of $4m in 2019/2020/2021 while saving $8m in 2019.

Blake Bortles – 2 years remaining on contract. Convert $10m of his $14m 2019 salary into signing bonus and spread for an additional cap hit of $5m in 2019/2020 while saving $5m in 2019. OR….cut to save $4.5m.

Malik Jackson – 3 years remaining on contract. Convert $12m of his $13m 2019 salary into signing bonus and spread for an additional cap hit of $4m in 2019/2020/2021 while saving $8m in 2019.

That is around $28m in cap space created to get them out of the hole and sign Foles. There is more they would have to do in order to keep their team intact, but you get the point.

Obviously, this is only making the problem worse into the future but I think that JAX could chose to do this for 2019 and 2020 before it all falls apart in 2021 and you are looking at a MAJOR salary and talent dump and rebuild. 2 year window for them to compete with their current talent.

So, if JAX wants Foles, they can afford him by pushing a lot of cap obligations into the future while at the same time keeping their team together. For one or two seasons.

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I don’t have a ton of time but here is a quick and dirty on JAX cap situation:

$188.200m = NFL 2019 Salary Cap
$011.600m = Rollover from 2018 for JAX
===========
$199.800m = 2019 JAX Salary Cap

$197.057m = Current contracts for top 51 players
$005.515m = Projected draft pool (projected draft cap hits minus 7x players make cap minimum)
$002.478m = Dead money
$001.200m = Spots 52 / 53 on regular season roster
$001.200m = 10-man practice squad
$003.000m = 2019 in season “churn” space
============
$210.450m = 2019 JAX Obligations

Free Cap Space = - 10.650m

Obviously, right now, every projection is going to show them under the salary cap because the draft class, spots 52 & 53, practice squad and churn space don’t count yet. But they will…..they will.

So, to realistically sign Foles, they need to account for all their 2019 expenditures AND have a minimum of $20m in free cap space to sign him….all without wrecking the team.

Top JAX 2019 free agents:
WR Donte Moncrief
TE Austin Seferian-Jenkins
TE James O’Shaughnessy
RB Corey Grant
RB T.J. Yeldon
OG A.J. Cann

Some guys there that are probably starters if they had not ended the season on IR (Moncrief, Seferian-Jenkins, Cann) so if they re-sign any of those guys, they need to create more space to do so.

Top 10 cap savings if cut:
$11.000m = DT Malik Jackson
$09.500m = DE Calais Campbell
$09.406m = CB A.J. Bouye
$07.450m = FS Tashaun Gipson
$06.000m = RT Jermey Parnell
$05.781m = OC Brandon Linder
$04.700m = RB Carlos Hyde
$04.500m = QB Blake Bortles
$04.130m = LB Telvin Smith
$04.000m = DT Taven Bryan

Cutting folks outright saves the most cap space but also wrecks the team.

They can do more of what they did with Marcell Dareus. They converted $5.000m of his 2019 salary into a signing bonus in order to spread it over the 2 remaining years of his deal (2019 and 2020) in order to spread the cap hit evenly and save $2.500m against the cap. That got them under the salary cap at the start of the NFL season (barely).

Andrew Norwell – 4 years remaining on contract. Convert $10m of his $13m 2019 salary into signing bonus and spread for an additional cap hit of $2.5m in 2019/2020/2021/2022 while saving $7.5m in 2019.

A.J. Boyue – 3 years remaining on contract. Convert $12m of his $13m 2019 salary into signing bonus and spread for an additional cap hit of $4m in 2019/2020/2021 while saving $8m in 2019.

Blake Bortles – 2 years remaining on contract. Convert $10m of his $14m 2019 salary into signing bonus and spread for an additional cap hit of $5m in 2019/2020 while saving $5m in 2019. OR….cut to save $4.5m.

Malik Jackson – 3 years remaining on contract. Convert $12m of his $13m 2019 salary into signing bonus and spread for an additional cap hit of $4m in 2019/2020/2021 while saving $8m in 2019.

That is around $28m in cap space created to get them out of the hole and sign Foles. There is more they would have to do in order to keep their team intact, but you get the point.

Obviously, this is only making the problem worse into the future but I think that JAX could chose to do this for 2019 and 2020 before it all falls apart in 2021 and you are looking at a MAJOR salary and talent dump and rebuild. 2 year window for them to compete with their current talent.

So, if JAX wants Foles, they can afford him by pushing a lot of cap obligations into the future while at the same time keeping their team together. For one or two seasons.

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Take note - JAX is an example of why you don't build your team through free agency. Several here were touting JAX as an example of successfully utilizing free agency to make a competitive team, and while they looked good for a year or two, but they're now dealing with the consequences of all of that spending. Keep in mind that just 2-3 years ago JAX was leading the league in available cap space, just like the Colts are now.
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Listening to radio this morning they said Jags are signing him next week. I caught tail end of the show driving to work.
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Listening to radio this morning they said Jags are signing him next week. I caught tail end of the show driving to work.
Yeah, I have seen a couple of articles about how it is a "done deal" and will be below market value in the $18m - $20m range.

They are going to need to resturcture quite a few contracts to make that happen.

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I know teams aren't required to designate franchise players until 4 PM eastern tomorrow, but it's been very quiet thus far. I'm surprised that Dee Ford and Robbie Gould are the only designees thus far.
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