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Old 01-11-2023, 05:50 PM
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There's some phantom concern about him not being able to improvise or create plays, and "folding under pressure". You can really watch any of his games to debunk these myths, but the Georgia game in particular does it very well.

Also, yes, I am pretty high on Stroud. He grades pretty closely to another former Ohio State QB, Joe Burrow, in my opinion.
Burrow?? Cmon man if he was anywhere near Burrow he’d be a slam dunk for the #1 pick and it wouldn’t even be close. He’s no Burrow, Burrow shattered records and didn’t lose. Burrow is the son of a football coach. The comparison stops at Ohio State
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hell no to trading up.


just sit tight and take whatever qb is there. unless the gm doesn't like him.
The problem is that Ballard’s job and the team’s future is riding on getting the pick right. The way I see it is that, if you think one of them is the guy, you make whatever move is necessary to move up and guarantee you get him.
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Old 01-11-2023, 07:02 PM
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Burrow?? Cmon man if he was anywhere near Burrow he’d be a slam dunk for the #1 pick and it wouldn’t even be close. He’s no Burrow, Burrow shattered records and didn’t lose. Burrow is the son of a football coach. The comparison stops at Ohio State
Burrow had 2 Marvin Harrison Jr.s or better at his disposal (JaMarr Chase and Justin Jefferson), and never faced a defense that allowed an average of 12.8 PPG.

Stroud should be a slam dunk for the #1 pick, I don't know why he isn't.
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All I know is that Burrow was the most accurate college passer that I have ever seen.
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None of the top 4 QB's in this draft are worth trading future draft picks to move up 3 spots for any of the QB's that scream bust more than franchise QB.
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Unitas was a 9th round pick....nuff said !!! Fuck that pussy Brady !!
That pussy worked out pretty well for the Cheats, that was my only point!
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Johnny Manziel's problem wasn't his size, it was that he put zero effort into becoming a starting caliber NFL QB.
He was also a coke head, which likely would have derailed things even if he was Luck’s size.
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None of the top 4 QB's in this draft are worth trading future draft picks to move up 3 spots for any of the QB's that scream bust more than franchise QB.
We're not talking about Trevor Lawrence here. These are not "ZOMG SIZE AND ATHLETICISM!" guys (well, Levis and Richardson are). Stroud and Young both are very advanced at reading defenses, exploiting coverages, making good decisions, moving coverage with their eyes, and throwing to the spot the receiver needs to be in with the right amount of touch on the throw. CJ Stroud is definitely worth trading up for, Bryce Young might be worth it. Levis and Richardson, 100% agree, not worth trading up for.
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All I know is that Burrow was the most accurate college passer that I have ever seen.
If Stroud is not as accurate, he's very close to it. I even saw a throw in the Georgia game where the announcer said "that ball was underthrown and the receiver had to come back for it". They then show the replay, Stroud threw the ball to an area of the field where no Georgia defender was or conceivably could get to, and only his receiver had a shot at the ball, and the receiver was able to catch it in stride on his route.
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We're not talking about Trevor Lawrence here. These are not "ZOMG SIZE AND ATHLETICISM!" guys (well, Levis and Richardson are). Stroud and Young both are very advanced at reading defenses, exploiting coverages, making good decisions, moving coverage with their eyes, and throwing to the spot the receiver needs to be in with the right amount of touch on the throw. CJ Stroud is definitely worth trading up for, Bryce Young might be worth it. Levis and Richardson, 100% agree, not worth trading up for.

Dude, Stroud is not a can't miss generational talent. He is not worth trading any draft capitol from next year to leap frog anyone to get him. He's just not. All I will say is, I am glad you're not the GM or scout for the Colts. We would be light years away from competing for anything.
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