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Old 12-10-2017, 09:21 PM
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Your last point could easily be coached out of him.... well it should be easy enough to coach.... I thought he did much better on that today honestly
Easier said than done. Some dudes it never goes away.

I could be wrong but I don't see it. The dude is very slow processing the field. Every week
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Hard to blame a kicker in a foot of snow
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I think it's premature to project his potential at this point. Besides the points made re coaching and scheme he didn't have the off season to prepare....this is all OTJ for a 23 year old. I think despite the mistakes he makes in each game (and yes some of them have cost us games) what he has accomplished given the extraordinary circumstances is really remarkable. Fortunate for us he has a few years on this rookie contract and he's a very good backup QB for now. I don't mind having him back up andrew at all next year.
What has he accomplished?
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Old 12-10-2017, 09:31 PM
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What has he accomplished?
With the exception of the first Jags game he's kept us competitive in all the games he's played in....obviously the Rams beat down was on Tolzein. As I said he has also cost us games with Q4 pick 6's. For a rookie QB with a shit coach and a shit scheme and zero off season to learn AND relative to Plan B (more Tolzein) keeping us competitive is quite an accomplishment I think. I actually tend to think he will be a very good back up over his career but my point is it's premature to label him yet. Time will tell and given the status of his contract we have time to see what his ceiling might be.
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What has he accomplished?
He has more career wins than Painter
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With the exception of the first Jags game he's kept us competitive in all the games he's played in....obviously the Rams beat down was on Tolzein. As I said he has also cost us games with Q4 pick 6's. For a rookie QB with a shit coach and a shit scheme and zero off season to learn AND relative to Plan B (more Tolzein) keeping us competitive is quite an accomplishment I think. I actually tend to think he will be a very good back up over his career but my point is it's premature to label him yet. Time will tell and given the status of his contract we have time to see what his ceiling might be.
I think you could argue the defense has kept the Colts competitive in games far more than Brissett. There's a reason where 7-10 points feels like an insurmountable lead anymore.

I agree that he's faced extraordinary circumstances, but we're not seeing a rookie wall. We're seeing a kid who just doesn't understand how to process the game. IMO, that's one of those things you either have or you don't. QBs can improve on little things, but if you don't even have a basic concept of going hot, you're probably not going to improve on much.
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I think you could argue the defense has kept the Colts competitive in games far more than Brissett. There's a reason where 7-10 points feels like an insurmountable lead anymore.

I agree that he's faced extraordinary circumstances, but we're not seeing a rookie wall. We're seeing a kid who just doesn't understand how to process the game. IMO, that's one of those things you either have or you don't. QBs can improve on little things, but if you don't even have a basic concept of going hot, you're probably not going to improve on much.
Perhaps. I just haven't seen enough to have any confidence in that assessment. Time will tell AND since there is no post season for us he will have plenty of time to learn under a new regime.
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It is sad that we have had more posts after the game than during it.
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It is sad that we have had more posts after the game than during it.
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I generally dislike posting during the game
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Hard to blame a kicker in a foot of snow
You could use that excuse for everyone then.

He is arguably the best kicker in history. I know it wasn't easy but He practices and I'm sure he did in the conditions today. He has had a history of bad kicks in that stadium according g to the announcers. The team cleared the field pretty well for him. He has made plenty in the snow before.

He should e made that last one
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