2019 Draft - Edge Rushers

[smitty46953]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

You understand that there was no way to guarantee this beforehand, right? The last two guards to go top ten before Nelson were Jonathan Cooper and Chance Warmack, both of whom flopped miserably and never even came close to living up to their top ten draft status. Both of them were All-Americans and hyped up as great players like Nelson was. Even discounting that and assuming he was going to be elite (which would've been a foolish assumption beforehand), an elite OG hasn't been worth as much as an elite DE, WR, LT, LB, DT, CB, etc. in the NFL over the last 10+ years. Considering 16 of the top 20 contracts for offensive lineman belong to LTs, and LTs don't get paid as well as the other positions I listed, it would seem that is a well established point among NFL GMs. That makes drafting a guard that high an even bigger risk. Fortunately it worked out, but no one could've known that Nelson would have a bigger impact as a rookie than any OG in the past 10+ years on draft day.

Few of us wanted Nelson, I watched ND a lot and he passed the eye test for me. Had Chubb been available and it was up to me the pick still be Nelson. Just my 2 cents. Had to protect the QB …

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by JAFF

Yeah, I don't know what you are talking about.

Nelson was the big fucking dog in this draft and he was a PRO BOWL player out the gate. How did all the guys above him do? Nelson was all pro as a lineman, the toughest, most intellegent position in the game. And he will only get better.

And while people will say QB is harder, try sittin in a three point stance, LISTENING to audibles and then HOLDING your position until the snap and ajusting your attack depending on the change, and knocking the crap out of the guy in front of you.

This guy could be one of the BEST. He's smart (Notre Damn), atheletic, and his DRIVEN. He likes to beat the piss out of guys in a legal way and not go to jail.

That 6th round pick will look like chump change in the future.

According to the guys on NFL radio, wideout is the second hardest position to learn next to QB today. Primarily because of all the audibling and being on the same page with the QB. I like Nelson and oline are usually some of the smartest guys on the team, but guard is more dependant on physical traits and fundamentals than mental processing.

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by VeveJones007

This isn't quite accurate. Most mocks had Key as an early 1st rounder early in the 2017 season. After he had some injuries and poor performance, few mocks had him as a 1st rounder by the time of the Senior Bowl.

I believe Key flaked during the offseason and disappeared. Some family issue. That started the question marks on him. Also rumors of lackluster practice effort.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by smitty46953

Few of us wanted Nelson, I watched ND a lot and he passed the eye test for me. Had Chubb been available and it was up to me the pick still be Nelson. Just my 2 cents. Had to protect the QB …

If Nelson had a good season but not All-Pro, and Chubb still had 12 sacks, the decision wouldn't look nearly as good, and that was a distinct possibility on draft day. Jonathan Cooper and Chance Warmack passed the eye test in college as well, I'm sure.

[smitty46953]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

If Nelson had a good season but not All-Pro, and Chubb still had 12 sacks, the decision wouldn't look nearly as good, and that was a distinct possibility on draft day. Jonathan Cooper and Chance Warmack passed the eye test in college as well, I'm sure.

Maybe for you not for me, Nelson is first time I would have ever considered a OL in top 10 outside of a LT. I was that high on this kid. Even if not an All-Pro out the gate if he kept Luck healthy I would be fine with that.

[FatDT]

It doesn’t matter. Ballard gambled and won, Nelson is great. And we will probably go decades without ever drafting another guard top 10.

[YDFL Commish]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

If Nelson had a good season but not All-Pro, and Chubb still had 12 sacks, the decision wouldn't look nearly as good, and that was a distinct possibility on draft day. Jonathan Cooper and Chance Warmack passed the eye test in college as well, I'm sure.

Stop being a fucking a fucking "Debbie Downer"! If's and's and butt's are for trolls.

[JAFF]

Originally Posted by YDFL Commish

Stop being a fucking a fucking "Debbie Downer"! If's and's and butt's are for trolls.

Wouldnt that be a DammyDowner

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by FatDT

It doesn’t matter. Ballard gambled and won, Nelson is great. And we will probably go decades without ever drafting another guard top 10.

Oh he absolutely gambled and won, but let's acknowledge it was a gamble.

[Racehorse]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

Oh he absolutely gambled and won, but let's acknowledge it was a gamble.

Dude, every draft pick is a gamble. Always has been.