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Old 03-07-2017, 09:23 AM
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Default Colts not re-signing Mike Adams

Not a big surprise, but it's official.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ck-mike-adams/

Good player for a few years, just too old at this point. One of Grigson's best moves. Good luck Mike.
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Old 03-07-2017, 09:41 AM
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Colts are also (probably) not bringing back Josh McNary or Zach Kerr:

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So what will the Colts do with their own guys? The short answer is that we don’t know. But the Indianapolis Star’s Stephen Holder provided an update today, particularly when it comes to a couple of their restricted free agents. Holder reports that with Zach Kerr, “indications are he won’t be tendered at all.” And then as for Josh McNary, Holder said that the Colts have decided not to extend an RFA tender to him - though that doesn’t mean he couldn’t be brought back as an unrestricted free agent once he hits the market.
http://www.stampedeblue.com/2017/3/6...rr-josh-mcnary

After a guy is non-tendered, it's usually a pretty good indication that they're probably going to head elsewhere, though there are exceptions and sometimes they find their way back.

In all cases, be it Mike Adams, Zach Kerr, or Josh McNary, I think it's best to move on and find someone else for their positions.
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For McNary, he can go.
For Kerr, mildly surprised, he wasn't terrible, I'm guessing Ballard has a plan for the d-line though.
For Adams, thanks for 3 good years, but it's probably time to move on.
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Not a big surprise, but it's official.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ck-mike-adams/

Good player for a few years, just too old at this point. One of Grigson's best moves. Good luck Mike.
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Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in awhile.
And the fact that bringing in a 33 year old safety that did a good, but not spectacular job was one of his greatest moves, kinda says it all.
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And the fact that bringing in a 33 year old safety that did a good, but not spectacular job was one of his greatest moves, kinda says it all.

I think you forget about some other very good moves... Trading for Davis, Trading up for TY, resigning Wayne, resigning Mathis bringing in Gore, drafting Moncreif. Finding Freeman drafting Andersen Geathers and Kelly

Yea ther were mistakes but its not like he never got anything right.

And dont't forget your new man cruch on Ballard could end up biting you in the ass if he doesn't produce and produce NOW. Remember he hasnt done anything yet
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I think you forget about some other very good moves... Trading for Davis, Trading up for TY, resigning Wayne, resigning Mathis bringing in Gore, drafting Moncreif. Finding Freeman drafting Andersen Geathers and Kelly

Yea ther were mistakes but its not like he never got anything right.

And dont't forget your new man cruch on Ballard could end up biting you in the ass if he doesn't produce and produce NOW. Remember he hasnt done anything yet
Please tell me that blowing Grigson now that he's fired isn't going to become your new fixation like bringing up Pep everytime Chudzinski fails at something.
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Grigson had some good moves. If anything I thought he was showing some signs of improvement. It just wasnt' enough to outweigh his bad moves and terrible personality.
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And the fact that bringing in a 33 year old safety that did a good, but not spectacular job was one of his greatest moves, kinda says it all.
I'm not quite sure if it was really a great move or not. Adams had a good stint here, but this was also a move that accompanied letting Antoine Bethea go. It's not clear this was an upward move at all, plus we lost Bethea's leadership as a longtime Colts player.

look at their stats
2014
Bethea: 86 tackles, 1 sack, 10 passes defensed, 4 INTs, probowl (set a career high in INT return yardage)
Adams: 87 tackles, 0 sack, 11 passes defensed, 5 INTs, probowl

That is a roughly equivalent season
2015, Bethea torn a pectoral muscle and went on IR after 7 games. This works out for us since Adams was healthy, but you never know if that injury would have happened if Bethea was in Indy. Adams also missed 3 games this year. I report stats per game below because of this:
Bethea: 6.3 tackles per game, .14 sack per game, .29 passes defensed per game, 0 INTs
Adams: 4 tackles per game, .08 sack per game, .46 passes defensed per game, .38 INT per game. (probowl)
So a better year for Adams in terms of pass defense and INTs and of course games played, but Bethea still was playing well.

2016:
Bethea: 95 tackles (Career high), 0 sack, 3 pass defense, 1 INT
Adams: 62 tackles, 0 sack, 2 pass defense, 2 INT

Bethea is still producing, Adams wasn't terrible, but barring injury, Bethea looks to have had the slightly better stats over the last 3 years.

Again I think there was value in keeping some of the old guard around. But it seems Grigson wanted those guys gone.
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I'm not quite sure if it was really a great move or not. Adams had a good stint here, but this was also a move that accompanied letting Antoine Bethea go. It's not clear this was an upward move at all, plus we lost Bethea's leadership as a longtime Colts player.

look at their stats
2014
Bethea: 86 tackles, 1 sack, 10 passes defensed, 4 INTs, probowl (set a career high in INT return yardage)
Adams: 87 tackles, 0 sack, 11 passes defensed, 5 INTs, probowl

That is a roughly equivalent season
2015, Bethea torn a pectoral muscle and went on IR after 7 games. This works out for us since Adams was healthy, but you never know if that injury would have happened if Bethea was in Indy. Adams also missed 3 games this year. I report stats per game below because of this:
Bethea: 6.3 tackles per game, .14 sack per game, .29 passes defensed per game, 0 INTs
Adams: 4 tackles per game, .08 sack per game, .46 passes defensed per game, .38 INT per game. (probowl)
So a better year for Adams in terms of pass defense and INTs and of course games played, but Bethea still was playing well.

2016:
Bethea: 95 tackles (Career high), 0 sack, 3 pass defense, 1 INT
Adams: 62 tackles, 0 sack, 2 pass defense, 2 INT

Bethea is still producing, Adams wasn't terrible, but barring injury, Bethea looks to have had the slightly better stats over the last 3 years.

Again I think there was value in keeping some of the old guard around. But it seems Grigson wanted those guys gone.
There is that.

Heh, I get flamed for being too anti-Grigson and it turns out I was giving him credit for a move that wasn't even a very good one.
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