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Any interest in Gerald McCoy, who the Bucs are reportedly shopping?

My feeling is, that if we don't come out of the draft with one of the top DT's, I would entertain trading a 5th and Hassan Ridgeway for him.

McCoy is the ideal UT for Eberflus system, I just don't know how much he has left in the tank?
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He is definetly not what he used to be. Probably better than Ridgeway though. I do see them double dipping on DT in this draft. A later pick on a Khalen Saunders or Rennel Wren along with s top three pick will likely cover the position.
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He is definetly not what he used to be. Probably better than Ridgeway though. I do see them double dipping on DT in this draft. A later pick on a Khalen Saunders or Rennel Wren along with s top three pick will likely cover the position.
With the premium this system places on length for DL, I doubt Saunders is a target. Plus I don't think Eberflus wants any DL over 300 pounds, and Saunders main selling point is his athleticism at 320. It's the same reason I doubt Dexter Lawrence is a target, and I think the Colts likely value Tillery higher and Wilkins lower than the general scouting community.
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With the premium this system places on length for DL, I doubt Saunders is a target. Plus I don't think Eberflus wants any DL over 300 pounds, and Saunders main selling point is his athleticism at 320. It's the same reason I doubt Dexter Lawrence is a target, and I think the Colts likely value Tillery higher and Wilkins lower than the general scouting community.
I wonder if they have a hard and fast minimum on arm length or if itís total wingspan.
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I wonder if they have a hard and fast minimum on arm length or if itís total wingspan.
Can he make plays? I think that is about the only metric worth using
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Can he make plays? I think that is about the only metric worth using
You use the metrics to determine what natural advantages a given player has that would make making plays easier for them, then you compare that to the tape. More data is better in any predictive analysis exercise.
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With the premium this system places on length for DL, I doubt Saunders is a target. Plus I don't think Eberflus wants any DL over 300 pounds, and Saunders main selling point is his athleticism at 320. It's the same reason I doubt Dexter Lawrence is a target, and I think the Colts likely value Tillery higher and Wilkins lower than the general scouting community.
I wouldnít be so quick to dismiss him. Players can lose weight and he was very disruptive at the senior bowl. Ballard likes his athletes and senior bowl performers. Also I dismissed a lot of mocks that had us taking Lawrence, but we are currently down a NT and Lawrence isnít your typical NT plodder. He has a higher RAS score than Tillery and is only a few hundredths behind Q Williams. He might be a three down player, I wonder what he would look like if he lost some weight. It is not often a guy that size, who can move so well, comes along. Tillery and Wren also have high scores, I could see those two getting picked with their length in mind.
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If Dexter Lawrence is the next Haloti Ngata, then yeah let's draft him. If he's the next Snacks Harrison, he'll be valuable but I don't want to spend a 1st on him.
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If Dexter Lawrence is the next Haloti Ngata, then yeah let's draft him. If he's the next Snacks Harrison, he'll be valuable but I don't want to spend a 1st on him.
I was pretty shocked to see his score. Not many people that size that has that athletiscm.
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I wouldnít be so quick to dismiss him. Players can lose weight and he was very disruptive at the senior bowl. Ballard likes his athletes and senior bowl performers. Also I dismissed a lot of mocks that had us taking Lawrence, but we are currently down a NT and Lawrence isnít your typical NT plodder. He has a higher RAS score than Tillery and is only a few hundredths behind Q Williams. He might be a three down player, I wonder what he would look like if he lost some weight. It is not often a guy that size, who can move so well, comes along. Tillery and Wren also have high scores, I could see those two getting picked with their length in mind.
Lawrence got popped for PEDs and would have to lose about 40 pounds to be in line with what the Colts want is a DL. He may have the requisite length, though. Saunders has very short arms as I recall.
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