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Was listening to Casserly today saying Young is better than_______ . basically anyone of the top defenders in the draft in basically the 2000's

Gotta say he might be right
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Ok . But you would pass up the best defensive player in probably 3 yrs for a QB that may or not be injured?

Not disagreeing with any choice. Young/Tua

Just asking for reasoning
Yes, based on Burrow going 1.01 and a chance to get who would still be the top rated QB in this years draft if not for injury. I would go Tua, his medical reports at combine have been excellent and could be our franchise QB for years. Even if he sits behind Brissett/Rivers/? for a year. Would love to have Young but in my opinion a franchise QB is a must in this league. If don't go with Tua be in same position in a year or two looking for a QB while our roster ages. Spend money on the D in free agency. Just my thoughts
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Ok . But you would pass up the best defensive player in probably 3 yrs for a QB that may or not be injured?

Not disagreeing with any choice. Young/Tua

Just asking for reasoning
Always take the quarterback if you donít have one. You can win Super Bowls without a great defensive end but not without a great quarterback.
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Always take the quarterback if you donít have one. You can win Super Bowls without a great defensive end but not without a great quarterback.
Only problem with that statement is that Joe Flacco.. Brad Johnson... Trent Dilfer... Nick Foles.. Jeff Hostetler to name a few have won SB and I doubt anyone would call these guys a Great QB.


That said I hope we find our next great QB soon.
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Always take the quarterback if you don’t have one. You can win Super Bowls without a great defensive end but not without a great quarterback.
For the most part I’d agree - as long as you have an extremely high confidence in their abilities as a franchise guy. I don’t think that you take “the best” QB available over the can’t miss DE though. I have enough question marks about Tua (especially health) and Hebert that I’d lean towards Young if given the choice between them. If it was Luck or PM level QB prospect then I absolutely agree.
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Chase Young on our Defense is exciting to think about.
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Jordan Love, the Colts need a long time solution at QB and I think thatís Love.
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HYPOTHETICAL

Burrows goes #1

Colts end up with the 2nd pick via trade of the 13, 34 and 44 . Again Hypothetical!

Who do you take with pick 2?
Unless they sign Bridgewater and Ballard expresses that he believes in Bridgewater as a franchise QB, I'd have to go with Tua. Chase Young is tempting, but a franchise QB is the most important piece.
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Only problem with that statement is that Joe Flacco.. Brad Johnson... Trent Dilfer... Nick Foles.. Jeff Hostetler to name a few have won SB and I doubt anyone would call these guys a Great QB.


That said I hope we find our next great QB soon.
True those guys are outliers. But Flacco, Foles played at a championship level and raised their game. Dilfer and Johnson had HOF defenses and were very solid in those years. Giants had Lawrence Taylor, got hot at the right time and was pretty lucky as well. So I don't think any of those guys dispprove what he said.

High level QB play compensates for a lot of flaws. I just don't know who the best QB will be out of this group. Glad I don't have to decide. But I do think Chase Young can be a Von Miller type player. Young is certainly the safe choice.
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Old 02-27-2020, 03:51 PM
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Unless they sign Bridgewater and Ballard expresses that he believes in Bridgewater as a franchise QB, I'd have to go with Tua. Chase Young is tempting, but a franchise QB is the most important piece.

I still don't get the love for Bridgewater. I'd take Jalen Hurts in the 2nd or 3rd before I would sign Bridgewater, and he will be better.
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