Quick Thoughts - Week 13

[Hoopsdoc]

Originally Posted by omahacolt

i have no idea what ehlinger is. other than i think his football iq is good and he has decent athleticism. and best of all he is cheap. i don't care if he makes the team next year or we roll with a different cheap guy.


nothing is idiotic about it. if ar goes down, we aren't winning anything with minshew. why pay him and see again what we already know? which is why i am in favor of drafting players to try and find that guy.

And if the Colts are 7-4 next season and AR goes down for 3-4 weeks, then you’re stuck with Ehlinger. Who is 99.9 percent likely to blow.

We KNOW Minshew can win games. And 7 million is NOTHING to pay a good backup.

You’re logic is dumb.

[Racehorse]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

Go watch the Season 4 of the Netflix series "QB1: Beyond the Lights", it shows AR suffering the same AC Joint injury, they even call it that.

The dude was not having surgery before. Now that he has the resources of an NFL team, he has had the surgery.

[Oldcolt]

Dam is once again talking through his ass. He, and none of us, has any idea if it was the same injury. It was an injury to the AC joint, but doubtful if it was the same extent. Furthermore it would make complete sense to watch after the first injury if it wasn't to severe. Once it reoccurred that joint had proven it has a propensity to be damaged and a permanent repair was done. It is taken care of and will most likely be meaningless for the rest of his career, if other athletes are any example.

[njcoltfan]

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc

And if the Colts are 7-4 next season and AR goes down for 3-4 weeks, then you’re stuck with Ehlinger. Who is 99.9 percent likely to blow.

We KNOW Minshew can win games. And 7 million is NOTHING to pay a good backup.

You’re logic is dumb.

I don't know why most people who post here think that Ellinger would suck given the chance. He was 27-6 in 43 starts at Texas, 94td-27int, 145 passer rating

[Oldcolt]

Originally Posted by njcoltfan

I don't know why most people who post here think that Ellinger would suck given the chance. He was 27-6 in 43 starts at Texas, 94td-27int, 145 passer rating

You can get away with a weak arm in college, not so much in the NFL. People remember him not being able to make throws. Not enough arm talent. But that can be improved, not sure if it has. If it hasn't he cannot be the answer, but given the fact that the Colts keep the kid around I am hopeful his arm strength has improved enough to be a decent backup.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by Racehorse

The dude was not having surgery before. Now that he has the resources of an NFL team, he has had the surgery.

There was a chance he wouldn't have surgery with this injury. When he suffered the injury, the reports said rehab and surgery were the options. It may be resources that made the decisions in both cases, but it seems like both options are considered medically valid.

Originally Posted by Oldcolt

Dam is once again talking through his ass. He, and none of us, has any idea if it was the same injury. It was an injury to the AC joint, but doubtful if it was the same extent. Furthermore it would make complete sense to watch after the first injury if it wasn't to severe. Once it reoccurred that joint had proven it has a propensity to be damaged and a permanent repair was done. It is taken care of and will most likely be meaningless for the rest of his career, if other athletes are any example.

It's still a recurring injury to his throwing shoulder. Also, I know they call it an AC joint sprain, but in non-technical terms, it's a separated shoulder. I'm no medical expert, but everything I've ever read and heard about joint separations suggests that once a joint separation occurs, the likelihood of recurrence increases dramatically, and with each recurrence the likelihood of recurrence increases. It's also his throwing shoulder, so damage/weakness there could be similar in its limiting factor to productivity to a RB suffering an ACL tear.

[Oldcolt]

You are correct about it weakening the joint, IF IT ISN'T REPAIRED. I am also not an expert in this shit, but I was a practicing physician for 40 years who is friends with orthopedic docs. They tell me that if properly repaired and healed (and here you have a real concern, that AR doesn't heal properly-a distinct if very low possibility. He had the best in the world doing the repair so I am guessing it was done correctly) he shouldn't have to worry about it separating again. If it does, the separation would be the least of his worries-he would have sustained a massive injury-very, very unlikey. The man should be fine, shoulder wise.

[Colts And Orioles]

Originally Posted by Oldcolt

You are correct about it weakening the joint, IF IT ISN'T REPAIRED. I am also not an expert in this shit, ) but I was a practicing physician for 40 years ) who is friends with orthopedic docs. They tell me that if properly repaired and healed (and here you have a real concern, that AR doesn't heal properly-a distinct if very low possibility. He had the best in the world doing the repair so I am guessing it was done correctly) he shouldn't have to worry about it separating again. If it does, the separation would be the least of his worries-he would have sustained a massive injury-very, very unlikely. The man should be fine, shoulder wise.

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[ChaosTheory]

I don't worry about AR's shoulder being more susceptible to injury than it was pre-injury.

That's because even if they repair/rehab it back to 100% and a clean slate (which I expect)... he's still going to have more volume of opportunity for injury with his style. In general.

If he takes that exact same Harold Landry shot, whether is separated shoulder is 60% or 100%... doesn't matter, he's going to fuck up his shoulder again.

[omahacolt]

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc

And if the Colts are 7-4 next season and AR goes down for 3-4 weeks, then you’re stuck with Ehlinger. Who is 99.9 percent likely to blow.

We KNOW Minshew can win games. And 7 million is NOTHING to pay a good backup.

You’re logic is dumb.

and minshew can lose us games as well. we can have someone other than ehlinger. like i said, draft a guy. i think it is dumb to watch a guy play for whatever that colts team was last year, and think you have him figured out. minshew isn't worth spending money on.