Building the ‘18 Colts and beyond

[DragonTails]

We need a damn play maker at 6 (Chubb). You can't have the 3rd pick in the draft and come away with a bunch of potential or projects.

The play maker(s) has to be on the on of the lines - not a rb or wr.

[Butter]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

To me this signals that they're likely Chubb or bust at 6.

Probably, but I am not sure Mewhort stops you from drafting Nelson.

[FatDT]

Originally Posted by Butter

Probably, but I am not sure Mewhort stops you from drafting Nelson.

I dont' think it flat out stops you from drafting him if he's the BPA when you pick. But I think if the Colts have the choice between him and Chubb you can make the case that the relative strength on the roster at guard vs. DE, plus the difference in positional value between DE and guard, would push it in Chubb's favor.

[VeveJones007]

Originally Posted by FatDT

I dont' think it flat out stops you from drafting him if he's the BPA when you pick. But I think if the Colts have the choice between him and Chubb you can make the case that the relative strength on the roster at guard vs. DE, plus the difference in positional value between DE and guard, would push it in Chubb's favor.

Agree on the positional value differential, but not on the current roster strength. Both groups are pretty terrible.

[sherck]

Originally Posted by FatDT

I dont' think it flat out stops you from drafting him if he's the BPA when you pick. But I think if the Colts have the choice between him and Chubb you can make the case that the relative strength on the roster at guard vs. DE, plus the difference in positional value between DE and guard, would push it in Chubb's favor.

Good post and I agree.

Chubb plus a 2nd round OG of which youare probably going to be picking the #2, #3, or #4 guy of the position group

VS

Nelson plus a 2nd round DE of which you are probably going to be picking the #5, #6, #7, or #8 guy of the position group.

Not much of a choice once you look at it that way.

Walk Worthy,

[FatDT]

Originally Posted by VeveJones007

Agree on the positional value differential, but not on the current roster strength. Both groups are pretty terrible.

I agree both are terrible. But I'd argue with Mewhort's signing guard is slightly less terrible. And that the depth at guard in the draft is a lot better than the depth at DE. Big dropoff after Chubb, whereas there are several guys after Nelson that look like potential quality starters in the NFL. Hernandez, Wynn, Price, Smith, Ragnow, Quessenberry, Teller. And you could throw in some of the OTs, we need a RT too.

[FatDT]

Originally Posted by sherck

Good post and I agree.

Chubb plus a 2nd round OG of which youare probably going to be picking the #2, #3, or #4 guy of the position group

VS

Nelson plus a 2nd round DE of which you are probably going to be picking the #5, #6, #7, or #8 guy of the position group.

Not much of a choice once you look at it that way.

Walk Worthy,

And IMO anyway the #2,3, and 4 guys at DE aren't that great. After Chubb they all have big questions.

[omahacolt]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

Which they should be doing, but for one of the LBs that won't make it past the end of the first round.

fuck no

no trading back into the 1st

[Butter]

Originally Posted by omahacolt

fuck no

no trading back into the 1st

I agree, we have way too many needs and the 2nd is a great place to fill them. Hopefully, we never again have the opportunity to be this flush.

[DragonTails]

Originally Posted by FatDT

And IMO anyway the #2,3, and 4 guys at DE aren't that great. After Chubb they all have big questions.

We're not getting Chubb.