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Also, it HAS to be noted that you keep saying "tenured teacher" instead of licensed teacher. There is a distinction there, too. That said, I have never seen teachers, licensed or licensed and tenured do some of the things that subs do. Subs do not all have the training or mindset of real teachers. Yes, some are former teachers and some have the right heart for kids. Most teachers only call the good ones, but sometimes have to scrape the bottom of the barrel and get bad ones. Word gets out and those do not get called again.

I DO agree that in the mind of the parents, the distinction is irrelevant. However, to paint this as the same as a regular teacher is so irresponsible that even a newspaper won't stoop so low. Let that sink in for a moment.
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Also, it HAS to be noted that you keep saying "tenured teacher" instead of licensed teacher. There is a distinction there, too. That said, I have never seen teachers, licensed or licensed and tenured do some of the things that subs do. Subs do not all have the training or mindset of real teachers. Yes, some are former teachers and some have the right heart for kids. Most teachers only call the good ones, but sometimes have to scrape the bottom of the barrel and get bad ones. Word gets out and those do not get called again.

I DO agree that in the mind of the parents, the distinction is irrelevant. However, to paint this as the same as a regular teacher is so irresponsible that even a newspaper won't stoop so low. Let that sink in for a moment.

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I know that I said that I would not continue explaining/debating this to you, but particular statement is very questionable/ambiguous.

There have been countless licensed teachers (quite often tenured teachers) in this country over the last 2 decades that have been fired for (and often convicted of) sexual misconduct with their students ........ both male AND female teachers.



Other than that, I believe that you are correct in your assertion that the general mindset of substitute teachers is considerably different than that of regular teachers. I have my master's degree in elementary education and was a student teacher for one semester to complete my degree, and the substitute's job is indeed considerably harder (and different) than that of the regular/licensed/permanent teacher.



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I know that I said that I would not continue explaining/debating this to you, but particular statement is very questionable/ambiguous.

There have been countless licensed teachers (quite often tenured teachers) in this country over the last 2 decades that have been fired for (and often convicted of) sexual misconduct with their students ........ both male AND female teachers.



Other than that, I believe that you are correct in your assertion that the general mindset of substitute teachers is considerably different than that of regular teachers. I have my master's degree in elementary education and was a student teacher for one semester to complete my degree, and the substitute's job is indeed considerably harder (and different) than that of the regular/licensed/permanent teacher.



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