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Old 11-17-2023, 03:13 PM
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So far this year, only 8 teams have scored more TDs than the Colts

25 teams have given up less TDs than the Colts
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So far this year, only 8 teams have scored more TDs than the Colts

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How many of those were pick sixes or fumble recovery TDs?
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How many of those were pick sixes or fumble recovery TDs?
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I should clarify. How many of the allowed TDs were fumble recoveries or pick sixes? Because I'm pretty sure there were at least 3 of those, maybe more. Then how many of the TDs the defense actually allowed were drives of 50 yards or less?
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How many points were scored off turnovers for those several weeks.
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I should clarify. How many of the allowed TDs were fumble recoveries or pick sixes? Because I'm pretty sure there were at least 3 of those, maybe more. Then how many of the TDs the defense actually allowed were drives of 50 yards or less?

Dam brother! Do your own research. I stand by my belief that while the D is better than it's been for a while, it is not elite and there are many teams with a better D.
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Not necessarily. I'd posit a bad offense would be highly correlated to a high volume of defensive plays, for example.
So three and outs are bad thing?
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Not saying you're wrong, but I'd be more interested in metrics like third down success rate, red zone success rate, takeaways, sack rate, pressure rate, negative plays forced, points per drive, etc. As metrics of a successful defense than yards allowed. Yards allowed can be skewed by a high volume of plays, which, as Chromeburn pointed out earlier, the Colts defense has the most plays run against them in the league.




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Correct.

The Colts' defense had one of their best games of the year in their win over the Ravens, but they ceded 364 yards in that game ...... in the Panthers game, the Colts' defense gave up only 275 yards, and they played similarly well in that game as they did in the game against the Ravens ....... but if you looked strictly at the number of yards ceded by the defense and compared the two, you would think that they played considerably better in the Panthers game than in the Ravens game. Additionally, the Colts were playing a much more potent offense when they played against the Ravens compared to the offense in which they faced against the Panthers.



As I stated earlier, watch the games with your own lying eyes if you want to see how a team and/or their specific units are playing rather than relying on generic statistics such as points allowed and/or yardage ceded.

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Also, turnovers have been a big factor in favor of the Colts' defense, and not in favor of the Colts' offense ...... the Colts are very close to the top of the NFL in both takeaways (their defense) and giveaways (their offense.)



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