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The old Dallas Dynasty was built around guys like Nate Newton.. a guard
Their 0-line just beat you into submission, ground you up.. I'd LOVE to see that in front of Luck. Given the front sevens we'll face in AFC SOuth, we'd better invest in an O-line or have the ambulance idling to haul Luck off to another year of rehab. We better be able to go bust them in the mouth from the first snap of the game, coaching, schemes, all that help. But we need big nasty TALENT in front of Luck |
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I would not have taken a guard at #6. I would've taken Barkley over Nelson. And don't get me wrong, I think Nelson will be a very good player at worst. He's the most-hyped interior OL I can remember in a long time, he played great at ND. But outside of long-snappers and specialists I don't think there's a position in football that affects the entire team less than guard. I think the smarter pick would've been to get one of the top ILBs. But the pick is done, we have Nelson now and he should be our best OL from day one. As GBB mentioned, you can't stop there. Get Hernandez or Williams early and really go all in on having a top NFL OL. You can't burn that high of a pick on a guard and then just leave uncertainty (Mewhort) or worse (the rest of our guys) at two other positions. Get another high-end OL, then just take the best defensive players the rest of the way. There are still good players like Maurice Hurst, Harold Landry, Rasheem Green, Josh Jackson, Malik Jefferson, Lorenzo Carter, and BJ Hill available. Throw Shaqueem Griffin in there too. |
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You're outkicking your coverage in your comments above. Just say that they could have found good guards with less premium picks and leave it at that. |
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Spike (04-30-2018) |
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Two stories about Nelson I heard leading up to the draft:
1) Chubb was doing pre-draft workouts at the same place as Nelson and McGlinchey. They started talking about the NC State-ND game from last year. Nelson told Chubb that he noticed early in the game that State would stunt anytime a LB lined up in a certain position. Nelson communicated that to the coaches and the line. Chubb said it effectively took away half of their defensive game plan. 2) Nelson was doing some pre-draft interviews alongside Roquan Smith and another LB. When Nelson left the room, Smith and the other defender gave each other a look and starting talking about how in awe they were of how huge Nelson is. |
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But does that provide as much of a difference as a sideline to sideline force at LB would have done? No. |
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It's a completely rational pick even if I would have gone another direction. Last edited by VeveJones007; 04-27-2018 at 09:55 AM. |
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Coltsalr (04-27-2018) |
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https://twitter.com/DakotaCrawford_/...89641929338880
Just look at this gif. The recognition, mobility, and physicality are unreal. A perfect example of why thinking Nelson doesn't improve the other spots on the line is flatly incorrect. |
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With Kelly and Nelson there might actually be a pocket for Luck to step up into when needed.
And when we need that 6" for the first down we've never been able to get consistently.. I'd rather have seen Chubb but this is a good pick |
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Spike (04-27-2018) |
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As to your argument that the opposing team could neutralize his effect by focusing on other areas of the line, wouldn't that thinking apply equally to an OT selected this high? I only ask because it is fairly commonplace for OTs to be taken in the top 5 or 6 picks, and I've never heard anyone use your argument to say that's a mistake. So is your criticism more about selecting an offensive lineman rather than a defensive player? I realize that OTs generally have to deal with better athletes at DE and OLB, but there are lots of tough DTs around too and Nelson should provide an immediate upgrade to our anemic run game. While I would have been more excited about selecting Chubb, I personally like that we are adding someone who is expected to start and play at a high level from day 1, as I think (barring further Luck problems) that we will compete in 2018. |
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