Interesting take on Brisset and Luck

Jacoby Brissett playing his way into a starting job

https://withthefirstpick.com/2017/11...-starting-job/

The 23-year-old has been serviceable, if not spectacular, in Andrew Luck’s absence leading Indy to a 3-6 record. Though this may seem underwhelming, considering the lack of talent on this roster Brissett has done much more than expected of him.

His playmaking ability and his unflappable, mature attitude on the field have caught the eye.

He could well be a future franchise quarterback. It is doubtful if any other backup in the league could’ve won 3 games with the Colts current roster, especially not in their second year as a pro.

[DrSpaceman]

Originally Posted by testcase448

Jacoby Brissett playing his way into a starting job

https://withthefirstpick.com/2017/11...-starting-job/

The 23-year-old has been serviceable, if not spectacular, in Andrew Luck’s absence leading Indy to a 3-6 record. Though this may seem underwhelming, considering the lack of talent on this roster Brissett has done much more than expected of him.

His playmaking ability and his unflappable, mature attitude on the field have caught the eye.

He could well be a future franchise quarterback. It is doubtful if any other backup in the league could’ve won 3 games with the Colts current roster, especially not in their second year as a pro.

Overstating things.

Again if someone wants to trade for him, great.

Unflappable? The last two weeks though he has made critical mistakes that resulted in two defensive TDs for the other team and cost the team one game and almost cost them a second.

He had two chances against Cincy to drive for a winning FG and failed to do so.

When the Jaguars turned up the rush in the second half he had no answer and played poorly.

He has played better than I expected, but I had low expectations for him based on the past Indy Back ups.

I truly wonder though if someone who writes articles like this is actually watching him play or just looking at his stats. Yes he has thrown "only" 4 INts, but many of those have been critical game changing INTs.

Originally Posted by DrSpaceman

Overstating things.

Again if someone wants to trade for him, great.

Unflappable? The last two weeks though he has made critical mistakes that resulted in two defensive TDs for the other team and cost the team one game and almost cost them a second.

He had two chances against Cincy to drive for a winning FG and failed to do so.

When the Jaguars turned up the rush in the second half he had no answer and played poorly.

He has played better than I expected, but I had low expectations for him based on the past Indy Back ups.

I truly wonder though if someone who writes articles like this is actually watching him play or just looking at his stats. Yes he has thrown "only" 4 INts, but many of those have been critical game changing INTs.

Valid points, but for a QB on a HORRIBLE team he has done well.
Brady MIGHT make this team .500

[Puck]

Originally Posted by testcase448

Valid points, but for a QB on a HORRIBLE team he has done well.
Brady MIGHT make this team .500

I'll add horrible team with a horrible scheme for the talent available

[1965southpaw]

Originally Posted by Puck

I'll add horrible team with a horrible scheme for the talent available

Totally agree....I don't think we can properly assess his ceiling until he has a competent OC with a proper scheme. What's Jared Goff for 1000 Alex? That said, I discount most national opinions on anything Colts related cause they most def aren't watching the games.

Originally Posted by Puck

I'll add horrible team with a horrible scheme for the talent available

No argument here!

[DrSpaceman]

Also team is average 19 points a game with him running on the offense while they have given up about 6 or 7 a game to the D.

I think he has done a fine job with the poor coaches and what the team has.

However if you are giving up a #1 or a #2 for a QB, whether through the draft or a trade, that means you believe if you put a solid team around them you think you would be a SB contender and they can run your franchise for the next decade.

COULD that happen with Brissett? Sure he might grow into that on the right team.

Has he shown that he is definitely that QB that can be a franchise cornerstone? No, I don't think so.

I would look at it this way : hypothetically say Andrew Luck's career is over right now. Based on what you've seen from Brissett so far, are you drafting a QB in round one in 2018 with the top pick the Colts likely will have or are you sticking with him as the future starter and focusing on other areas of the team?

I can tell you I'd be drafting someone.

Originally Posted by DrSpaceman

are you drafting a QB in round one in 2018 with the top pick the Colts likely will have or are you sticking with him as the future starter and focusing on other areas of the team?

I can tell you I'd be drafting someone.

I'd build a solid team, THEN look for a franchise QB. Drafting even another Luck to throw to the wolves leaves us right where we are.
Now another Manning, who can drag a 5-11 team to 11-5, THAT is a different thing.
Luck isn't that guy, he would have been great, just not Manning great.

[albany ed]

Unless you already have one, you never pass on a potential franchise QB. But this is all just whistling in the wind. I stand firmly in the camp that Luck will return and be as good as gold. I'm an optimist, and until I hear definitive evidence that he's not coming back ... he is. Our first draft choice will be a pass rusher.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by albany ed

Unless you already have one, you never pass on a potential franchise QB. But this is all just whistling in the wind. I stand firmly in the camp at Luck will return and be as good as gold. I'm an optimist, and until I hear definitive evidence that he's not coming back ... he is. Our first draft choice will be a pass rusher.

Should be and hopefully will. An all LB draft would be fine with me.