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Old 01-21-2020, 01:08 PM
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I heard this yesterday. The Packers have had 30 straight years of first ballot HOF quarterback play, and they have 2 SB to show for it. Same as the Ravens who have nothing close to HOF quarterback play.
What about the seasons in between the championship runs?
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What about the seasons in between the championship runs?
If your point is that a HOF QB will give you more wins in the regular season, you're right. The Packers have had only 4 or 5 terrible years and the rest were either good or at least mediocre years. I won't argue with you that having QBs like Luck or Manning made every season more enjoyable, I just don't want to see this team give up too much just to get a QB who may or may not end up being of HOF caliber. I thought Darnold was a sure thing, now, I'm not so sure.
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If our goal is a championship there is no sure thing, at least no one player can guarantee that. With a qb the caliber of Luck you could be lazy, rest on your laurels and still have a pretty good year. Without that quality leading your team front office/coaching doesn’t have as much leeway in putting an enjoyable product on the field. Ballard/Reich need to earn their money
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If your point is that a HOF QB will give you more wins in the regular season, you're right. The Packers have had only 4 or 5 terrible years and the rest were either good or at least mediocre years. I won't argue with you that having QBs like Luck or Manning made every season more enjoyable, I just don't want to see this team give up too much just to get a QB who may or may not end up being of HOF caliber. I thought Darnold was a sure thing, now, I'm not so sure.
Irsay got it right with Manning and blew it with Luck.

He hired Polian and Mora. Solid guys who understood how to handle a team and young talent. Griegson and Pagano was a cluster ****. Neither one had ever run a team or organization before.

I like what they have with Ballard and Reich. Granted, Ballard has never run an organization before, but he has shown his metal. Frank Reich has seen it from the worst to the best and he knows a QB when he sees one.

If the Colts are going to draft a QB in the first round its not about is athletic ability, it's going to be about what's between his ears. Is he all about football or all about how he looks?

About the Packers, between Starr and Farve, they had very few trips to the playoffs. A great QB can get you into the playoffs. The rest of the team needs to win it.
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I heard this yesterday. The Packers have had 30 straight years of first ballot HOF quarterback play, and they have 2 SB to show for it. Same as the Ravens who have nothing close to HOF quarterback play.
WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA...... Are you forgetting Steve McNair ands Fatty McButterpants?
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Irsay got it right with Manning and blew it with Luck.

He hired Polian and Mora. Solid guys who understood how to handle a team and young talent. Griegson and Pagano was a cluster ****. Neither one had ever run a team or organization before.

I like what they have with Ballard and Reich. Granted, Ballard has never run an organization before, but he has shown his metal. Frank Reich has seen it from the worst to the best and he knows a QB when he sees one.

If the Colts are going to draft a QB in the first round its not about is athletic ability, it's going to be about what's between his ears. Is he all about football or all about how he looks?

About the Packers, between Starr and Farve, they had very few trips to the playoffs. A great QB can get you into the playoffs. The rest of the team needs to win it.
I don't think Irsay blew it with Luck. Everyone loved the Luck pick and he played well. No one could have anticipated Luck retiring this early in his career. The only other option was RG111 and he was good for 1 year. Can't blame Irsay for picking Luck.
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WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA...... Are you forgetting Steve McNair ands Fatty McButterpants?
Who is fatty mcbutterpants?
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He's the OC for Tampa now

So even more reason that Winston sucks . Besides Arians killing him every play
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I heard this yesterday. The Packers have had 30 straight years of first ballot HOF quarterback play, and they have 2 SB to show for it. Same as the Ravens who have nothing close to HOF quarterback play.
Well they had a HOF defense and Flacco played at a HOF level that other year so QB play did matter.

I honestly don't know why some of you are leaning towards average QB play. A great QB always has you in a position to win year in and year out. It just makes things easier. A game manager is only as good as the team around him and that never last and is frankly a shorter time frame.
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