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Old 04-20-2019, 05:32 PM
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Brissett's value is not much higher than when he was drafted late in the 3rd round. Colts would be lucky to get late 2nd early 3rd value for him.
It’d be in the package of a trade, not as a stand-alone.

My point was that the Colts don’t have the assets to move down to where the Jets are.
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How about getting to 11-15?
Dolphins at 13. Will take at least 26 & 59. Probably another pick too.
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maybe the Colts should give them back their second rounder, and go get the D lineman they really, really want?

Why not trade up, now, this year?
Maybe we can just offer them a 2023 7th round pick. That will work just about as well as offering our 2nd round pick to move up to #3.
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It’d be in the package of a trade, not as a stand-alone.

My point was that the Colts don’t have the assets to move down to where the Jets are.

I realize that it's a package. But Brissett has more value to the Colts than he does to any other team in the NFL. Ballard will not trade him and will drafting his replacement in the next year or two.
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Old 04-22-2019, 08:46 AM
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I realize that it's a package. But Brissett has more value to the Colts than he does to any other team in the NFL. Ballard will not trade him and will drafting his replacement in the next year or two.
That does appear to be the case, barring a team getting desperate if their QB goes down and deciding to way overpay.
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If all it would take is #26 or #34 to get Kentucky Josh Allen, then fuck yeah.

Sadly, per the draft pick value chart, we’d be WELL short:

http://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp
Josh Allen? You get Quinnen Williams and don’t look back.
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Josh Allen? You get Quinnen Williams and don’t look back.
From a scheme standpoint you’re probably right (Josh Allen I’m not sure can go hand in the dirt full time and I’m not sure you’d want to given that he actually is good at dropping back into coverage).

That said, I watch a ton of SEC football and Josh Allen always jumped out more to me. I’d obviously love to have Quinnen Williams as well, too, though.
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From a scheme standpoint you’re probably right (Josh Allen I’m not sure can go hand in the dirt full time and I’m not sure you’d want to given that he actually is good at dropping back into coverage).

That said, I watch a ton of SEC football and Josh Allen always jumped out more to me. I’d obviously love to have Quinnen Williams as well, too, though.
I watch it too, trust me, Williams jumps out just as much. And he is on a defense stacked with four and five star recruits. He would be a player who would actually start for us. At 26 I don’t know if we will get a starter with that pick.

I like Allen, but he is a better fit for a 3-4 defense.

If deciding between an equally excellent inside rusher and outside rusher, go inside rusher. Shorter path to the QB and can be more disruptive.

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I watch it too, trust me, Williams jumps out just as much. And he is on a defense stacked with four and five star recruits. He would be a player who would actually start for us. At 26 I don’t know if we will get a starter with that pick.

I like Allen, but he is a better fit for a 3-4 defense.

If deciding between an equally excellent inside rusher and outside rusher, go inside rusher. Shorter path to the QB and can be more disruptive.
Yep. How many times did we witness that against Brady? Need interior pressure to disrupt QBs who get rid of the ball so quickly. Only caveat is that you want balance across the entire line to limit double-teams against the interior pressure.
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