Thoughts on the Bucs.

[Hoopsdoc]

1. Pittman is a beast. Pay the man.

2. I think Pierce gets a bum rap sometimes. He just isn’t that involved on a week to week basis. I’m sure it’s tough to stay focused.

3. They need to get Downs more involved. He’s a playmaker.

4. Until they showed Shaq Leonard in the box, I didn’t even realize he wasn’t there.

5. Defo is a beast but they miss Grover badly.

6. Overall I was disappointed in the defense, especially the run defense. Tampa is one of the worst running teams in the league and the colts gave up 125 yards. Ebukam was a really good signing.

7. Mallory is ok but he feels like a less talented version of Ogletree.

8. Moss is the best backup running back in the league.

9. JT is really really good.

10. What can you say about Minshew? He is just so frustrating to watch. He makes the routine plays interspersed with some of the most boneheaded plays you’ll ever see. He reminds me in that way of Wentz.

11. I thought this was one of Steichens worst games so far. The decision to go for it on 4th and 6 in the 3rd quarter was awful. Inexcusable really.

12. At the end of the day, the Colts are in the playoffs as of right now.

[HoosierinFL]

5. Defo is a beast but they miss Grover badly.

6. Overall I was disappointed in the defense, especially the run defense. Tampa is one of the worst running teams in the league and the colts gave up 125 yards. Ebukam was a really good signing.

These 2 points are really the same point. Without Grover we've really struggled with run defense, esp inside the tackles.


7. Mallory is ok but he feels like a less talented version of Ogletree.

I just don't know what to make of our TE group. It feels like we don't ever use them. Is this scheme? Minshew just not making the reads? Or are they really ineffective? It seems like every now and then we get crucial plays from TEs, but its clearly not consistent and I don't know why.



10. What can you say about Minshew? He is just so frustrating to watch. He makes the routine plays interspersed with some of the most boneheaded plays you’ll ever see. He reminds me in that way of Wentz.

Just a little but he is so much better than Wentz.


11. I thought this was one of Steichens worst games so far. The decision to go for it on 4th and 6 in the 3rd quarter was awful. Inexcusable really.

That was a mistake but really it's my only coaching complaint of the game.

[Dam8610]

How did Harrison do outside of the early INT? I didn't get a chance to watch the game closely due to travel, but was excited to see him have an impact right away.

[Hoopsdoc]

Originally Posted by HoosierinFL

5. Defo is a beast but they miss Grover badly.

6. Overall I was disappointed in the defense, especially the run defense. Tampa is one of the worst running teams in the league and the colts gave up 125 yards. Ebukam was a really good signing.

These 2 points are really the same point. Without Grover we've really struggled with run defense, esp inside the tackles.


7. Mallory is ok but he feels like a less talented version of Ogletree.

I just don't know what to make of our TE group. It feels like we don't ever use them. Is this scheme? Minshew just not making the reads? Or are they really ineffective? It seems like every now and then we get crucial plays from TEs, but its clearly not consistent and I don't know why.



10. What can you say about Minshew? He is just so frustrating to watch. He makes the routine plays interspersed with some of the most boneheaded plays you’ll ever see. He reminds me in that way of Wentz.

Just a little but he is so much better than Wentz.


11. I thought this was one of Steichens worst games so far. The decision to go for it on 4th and 6 in the 3rd quarter was awful. Inexcusable really.

That was a mistake but really it's my only coaching complaint of the game.

I agree he’s way better than Wentz but his interception today reminded me a lot of Wentz’s int in overtime against Tennessee when he threw into triple coverage. Just inexcusably bad.

As for Steichen, I firmly believe that 4th down call was the sole reason that the game ended up close. They were up by 10 midway through the 3rd quarter. Tampa hadn’t really moved the ball consistently all day. Mayfield was gimpy.

There was not a single good reason for going for it there and about a hundred good reasons against it.

It was a horrible call and I still can’t figure out why he did it. It’s not like it was 4th and inches. It was 4th and 6 if I remember correctly.

You punt that ball all day every day.

The only thing I can think of as to why they went for it there is Steichen wanted to put his foot on their throats right then and there. But it’s an awful decision because, if it doesn’t work, it completely flips the momentum of the game.

Which is exactly what happened.

[Puck]

Was at the game today. Seeing Maniac there and he was cheering us on was classy By both him and the organization for highlighting him

The out of know there was Chuck Pagano and his wife on Kiss Cam. He laughed hard when his face was shown. Again pretty cool

Oh Yea. I was also on the Jumbotron for service vets.

[Butter]

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc

I agree he’s way better than Wentz but his interception today reminded me a lot of Wentz’s int in overtime against Tennessee when he threw into triple coverage. Just inexcusably bad.

As for Steichen, I firmly believe that 4th down call was the sole reason that the game ended up close. They were up by 10 midway through the 3rd quarter. Tampa hadn’t really moved the ball consistently all day. Mayfield was gimpy.

There was not a single good reason for going for it there and about a hundred good reasons against it.

It was a horrible call and I still can’t figure out why he did it. It’s not like it was 4th and inches. It was 4th and 6 if I remember correctly.

You punt that ball all day every day.

The only thing I can think of as to why they went for it there is Steichen wanted to put his foot on their throats right then and there. But it’s an awful decision because, if it doesn’t work, it completely flips the momentum of the game.

Which is exactly what happened.

I agree, maybe with a better QB you do that kind of thing, but not Minshew, there is not enough room for Error. I was also a bit put off by the lack of running the ball in the first half, we have 2 legit RB1s, fucking use that and not have a top 30 QB throw every play, even if TB is a great run D at least pretend you are a solid running team.

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by Butter

I agree, maybe with a better QB you do that kind of thing, but not Minshew, there is not enough room for Error. I was also a bit put off by the lack of running the ball in the first half, we have 2 legit RB1s, fucking use that and not have a top 30 QB throw every play, even if TB is a great run D at least pretend you are a solid running team.

They are doing that because the teams are coming out in a base defense. They are daring Minshew to throw so effectively that they have to go nickle.

[apballin]

Originally Posted by Puck

Was at the game today. Seeing Maniac there and he was cheering us on was classy By both him and the organization for highlighting him

The out of know there was Chuck Pagano and his wife on Kiss Cam. He laughed hard when his face was shown. Again pretty cool

Oh Yea. I was also on the Jumbotron for service vets.

Almost seems like a Vinateri situation like they told Leonard he needs to hang it up and he just doesn’t wanna let go

[Puck]

Originally Posted by apballin

Almost seems like a Vinateri situation like they told Leonard he needs to hang it up and he just doesn’t wanna let go

Oh yea Adam swung the Anvil to fire the crowd upi before the game

[Butter]

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

They are doing that because the teams are coming out in a base defense. They are daring Minshew to throw so effectively that they have to go nickle.

Still dumb with Minshew as a QB and Moss and JT, I am not talking running every first down like Pagano, but what did we have 6 or 7 runs the first half, dumb.