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Yeah, picking him six was way too high. What? Too much sarcasim?
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And if he's so dang smart, he should have seen John Hannah. That's what they compared Nelson to.
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Here's the entire list and they number of hall of famers in the lower rounds gets really small Bonus Round (From 1947 through 1958, the first selection of the draft was a Bonus pick, awarded to the winner of a random draw. That club, in turn, forfeited its last-round draft choice. The winner of the Bonus pick was eliminated from future draws. The system was abolished after 1958, by which time all clubs had received a Bonus pick.) Year Player Overall Pos. Team 1949 Chuck Bednarik 1 C/LB Philadelphia Eagles (Also drafted in 1st round of 1949 AAFC secret draft by the Brooklyn Dodgers.) 1957 Paul Hornung 1 QB/HB Green Bay Packers First Round Year Player Overall Pos. Team 1936 Joe Stydahar 6 T Chicago Bears 1937 Sammy Baugh 6 QB Washington Redskins 1938 Alex Wojciechowicz 6 C Detroit Lions 1939 Sid Luckman 2 QB Chicago Bears 1940 George McAfee 2 HB Philadelphia Eagles (Immediately traded to Chicago Bears, with whom he signed.) 1940 Clyde "Bulldog" Turner 7 C Chicago Bears 1942 Bill Dudley 1 HB Pittsburgh Steelers 1944 Otto Graham 4 QB Detroit Lions (Drafted by Lions but signed with Cleveland Browns of AAFC in 1946.) 1944 Steve Van Buren 5 HB Philadelphia Eagles 1945 Charley Trippi 1 HB Chicago Cardinals (Drafted as a future selection. Also drafted as special selection in 1947 AAFC draft by New York Yankees.) 1945 Elroy Hirsch 5 HB-E Cleveland Rams (Drafted as a future selection. Started career in AAFC but switched to NFL and Rams in 1949.) 1946 George Connor 5 T New York Giants (Drafted as a future selection. Traded to the Boston Yanks who then traded him to the Chicago Bears. Also selected in 15th round - 145th overall - of 1945 draft by Pittsburgh Steelers. The NFL ruled the pick to be ineligible and thus voided the selection.) 1948 Bobby Layne 3 QB Chicago Bears (Also selected in 1st round - 2nd overall - of 1948 AAFC draft by Baltimore Colts.) 1948 Y.A. Tittle 6 QB Detroit Lions (Drafted by Lions, but started career with the Baltimore Colts in AAFC. When Colts disbanded after 1950 season, the players were made eligible for draft along with college seniors. Tittle was the No. 1 choice - 3rd overall - of 49ers in 1951.) 1949 Doak Walker 3 HB Boston Yanks (Walker was drafted as a future selection. His negotiation rights traded to Detroit Lions before 1950 season. Also drafted in 9th round - 69th overall - of 1949 AAFC draft by the Cleveland Browns.) 1950 Leo Nomellini 11 DT San Francisco 49ers 1952 Ollie Matson 3 HB Chicago Cardinals 1952 Hugh McElhenny 9 HB San Francisco 49ers 1952 Les Richter 2 LB New York Yanks 1952 Frank Gifford 11 HB-FL New York Giants 1953 Doug Atkins 11 DE Cleveland Browns 1956 Lenny Moore 9 FL-HB Baltimore Colts 1957 Len Dawson 5 QB Pittsburgh Steelers 1957 Jim Brown 6 FB Cleveland Browns 1957 Jim Parker 8 T-G Baltimore Colts 1960 AFL Ron Mix n/a T Boston Patriots (Traded to Los Angeles Chargers. Also drafted in 1st round of 1960 NFL Draft - 10th overall - by the Baltimore Colts.) 1961 Mike Ditka 5 TE Chicago Bears (Also drafted in 1st round of 1961 AFL draft by the Houston Oilers.) 1961 Jimmy Johnson 6 CB San Francisco 49ers (Also drafted in 4th round of 1961 AFL draft by the Los Angeles Chargers.) 1961 Herb Adderley 12 HB Green Bay Packers (Also drafted in 2nd round of 1961 AFL draft by the New York Titans.) 1961 Bob Lilly 13 DT Dallas Cowboys (Also drafted in 2nd round of 1961 AFL draft by the Dallas Texans.) 1962 Merlin Olsen 3 DT Los Angeles Rams (Also drafted in 1st round - 2nd overall - of 1962 AFL Draft by the Denver Broncos.) 1963 AFL Buck Buchanan 1 DE-T Dallas Texans (Also drafted in 19th round - 265th overall - of 1963 NFL Draft by the New York Giants.) 1963 Dave Robinson 14 LB Green Bay Packers (Also drafted in 3rd round - 14th overall - of 1963 AFL Draft by the San Diego Chargers.) 1964 Bob Brown 2 T Philadelphia Eagles (Also drafted in 1st round - 1st overall - of 1964 AFL Draft by Denver Broncos.) 1964 Charley Taylor 3 HB-SE Washington Redskins (Also drafted in 2nd round - 9th overall - of 1964 AFL Draft by the Houston Oilers.) 1964 Carl Eller 6 DE Minnesota Vikings (Also drafted in 1st round - 5th overall - of 1964 AFL Draft by Buffalo Bills.) 1964 Paul Warfield 11 WR Cleveland Browns(Also drafted in 4th round - 28th overall - of 1964 AFL Draft by the Buffalo Bills.) 1965 Dick Butkus 3 LB Chicago Bears(Also drafted in 2nd round of 1965 AFL Draft by the Denver Broncos.) 1965 Gale Sayers 4 HB Chicago Bears (Also drafted in 1st round of 1965 AFL Draft by the Kansas City Chiefs.) 1965 AFL Joe Namath n/a QB New York Jets (Also selected in 1st round - 12th overall - of 1965 NFL Draft by the St. Louis Cardinals.) 1966 Tom Mack 2 G Los Angeles Rams 1967 Bob Griese 4 QB Miami Dolphins 1967 Floyd Little 6 RB Denver Broncos 1967 Alan Page 15 DT Minnesota Vikings 1967 Gene Upshaw 17 G Oakland Raiders 1968 Ron Yary 1 T Minnesota Vikings 1968 Claude Humphrey 3 DE Atlanta Falcons 1968 Larry Csonka 8 FB Miami Dolphins 1969 O.J. Simpson 1 RB Buffalo Bills 1969 Joe Greene 4 DT Pittsburgh Steelers 1969 Roger Wehrli 19 CB St. Louis Cardinals 1970 Terry Bradshaw 1 QB Pittsburgh Steelers 1971 John Riggins 6 RB New York Jets 1971 Jack Youngblood 20 DE Los Angeles Rams 1972 Franco Harris 13 HB Pittsburgh Steelers 1973 John Hannah 4 G New England Patriots 1973 Ray Guy 23 P Oakland Raiders 1973 Joe DeLamielleure 26 G Buffalo Bills 1974 Lynn Swann 21 WR Pittsburgh Steelers 1975 Randy White 2 DL-LB Dallas Cowboys 1975 Walter Payton 4 RB Chicago Bears 1976 Lee Roy Selmon 1 DT Tampa Bay Buccaneers 1976 Mike Haynes 5 CB New England Patriots 1977 Tony Dorsett 2 RB Dallas Cowboys 1978 Earl Campbell 1 FB Houston Oilers 1978 James Lofton 6 WR Green Bay Packers 1978 Ozzie Newsome 23 TE Cleveland Browns 1979 Dan Hampton 4 DL Chicago Bears 1979 Kellen Winslow 13 TE San Diego Chargers 1980 Athony Muñoz 3 T Cincinnati Bengals 1980 Art Monk 8 WR Washington Redskins 1981 Lawrence Taylor 2 LB New York Giants 1981 Ronnie Lott 8 DB San Francisco 49ers 1982 Mike Munchak 8 G Houston Oilers 1982 Marcus Allen 10 RB Oakland Raiders (Team relocated to Los Angeles following the draft.) 1983 Darrell Green 28 CB Washington Redskins 1983 John Elway 1 QB Baltimore Colts 1983 Eric Dickerson 2 RB Los Angeles Rams 1983 Bruce Matthews 9 G,T,C Houston Oilers 1983 Jim Kelly 14 QB Buffalo Bills 1983 Dan Marino 27 QB Miami Dolphins 1984 Reggie White 4 DE/DT Philadelphia Eagles 1984 Steve Young 1* QB Tampa Bay Buccaneers 1984 Gary Zimmerman 3* T Minnesota Vikings 1985 Bruce Smith 1 DE Buffalo Bills 1985 Chris Doleman 4 DE/LB Minnesota Vikings 1985 Jerry Rice 16 WR San Francisco 49ers 1987 Rod Woodson 10 DB Pittsburgh Steelers 1988 Tim Brown 6 WR Los Angeles Raiders 1988 Michael Irvin 11 WR Dallas Cowboys 1988 Randall McDaniel 19 G Minnesota Vikings 1989 Troy Aikman 1 QB Dallas Cowboys 1989 Barry Sanders 3 RB Detroit Lions 1989 Derrick Thomas 4 LB Kansas City Chiefs 1989 Deion Sanders 5 CB/KR/PR Atlanta Falcons 1990 Cortez Kennedy 3 DT Seattle Seahawks 1990 Junior Seau 5 LB San Diego Chargers 1990 Emmitt Smith 17 RB Dallas Cowboys 1993 Willie Roaf 8 T New Orleans Saints 1993 Jerome Bettis 10 RB Los Angeles Rams 1994 Marshall Faulk 2 RB Indianapolis Colts 1995 Warren Sapp 12 DT Tampa Bay Buccaneers 1995 Derrick Brooks 28 LB Tampa Bay Buccaneers 1996 Jonathan Ogden 4 T Baltimore Ravens 1996 Marvin Harrison 19 WR Indianapolis Colts 1997 Orlando Pace 1 T St. Louis Rams 1997 Walter Jones 6 T Seattle Seahawks Back to Top *Special Supplemental Draft Second Round Year Player Overall Pos. Team 1936 "Tuffy" Leemans 18 FB-HB New York Giants 1937 Clarence "Ace" Parker 13 QB Brooklyn Dodgers 1950 Ernie Stautner 22 DT Pittsburgh Steelers (Also selected in 1st round of 1949 secret two-round AAFC draft by the San Francisco 49ers.) 1951 Dick Stanfel 19 G Detroit Lions 1951 Bill George 23 LB Chicago Bears(Drafted as future selection.) 1952 Gino Marchetti 14 DE New York Yanks (Two days after the draft, the Yanks franchise was sold back to the NFL. All assets and players were granted to the new Dallas Texans.) 1953 John Henry Johnson 18 FB Pittsburgh Steelers (Played in the Canadian Football League in 1953. Negotiating rights were traded to San Francisco 49ers before the 1954 season.) 1956 Forrest Gregg 20 T Green Bay Packers 1958 Jim Taylor 15 FB Green Bay Packers 1961 AFL Billy Shaw n/a G Buffalo Bills (Also selected in the 14th round - 184th overall - of 1961 NFL Draft by the Dallas Cowboys.) 1962 AFL Lance Alworth 9 FL Oakland Raiders (Also drafted in 1st round - 8th overall - of 1962 NFL Draft by the San Francisco 49ers.) 1963 John Mackey 19 TE Baltimore Colts (Also drafted in 5th round - 35th overall -of 1963 AFL Draft by the New York Titans.) 1964 Mel Renfro 17 DB Dallas Cowboys (Also drafted in 10th round -79th overall- of 1964 AFL Draft by the Oakland Raiders.) 1964 Paul Krause 18 S Washington Redskins (Also drafted in 12th round -89th overall- of 1964 AFL Draft by the Denver Broncos.) 1965 AFL Fred Biletnikoff n/a WR Oakland Raiders (Also drafted in 3rd round -39th overall- of 1965 NFL Draft by the Detroit Lions.) 1967 Lem Barney 34 CB Detroit Lions 1967 Willie Lanier 50 LB Kansas City Chiefs 1968 Curley Culp 31 DT Denver Broncos 1968 Ken Stabler 52 QB Oakland Raiders 1969 Ted Hendricks 33 LB Baltimore Colts 1971 Jack Ham 34 LB Pittsburgh Steelers 1971 Dan Dierdorf 43 T St. Louis Cardinals 1974 Dave Casper 45 TE Oakland Raiders 1974 Jack Lambert 46 LB Pittsburgh Steelers 1975 Fred Dean 33 DE San Diego Chargers 1980 Dwight Stephenson 48 C Miami Dolphins 1981 Mike Singletary 38 LB Chicago Bears 1981 Howie Long 48 DE Oakland Raiders 1981 Rickey Jackson 51 LB New Orleans Saints 1982 Andre Tippett 41 LB New England Patriots 1988 Thurman Thomas 40 RB Buffalo Bills 1988 Dermontti Dawson 44 C Pittsburgh Steelers 1991 Brett Favre 33 QB PAtlanta Falcons 1993 Michael Strahan 40 DE New York Giants 1994 Larry Allen 46 G/T Dallas Cowboys Back to top Third Round Year Player Overall Pos. Team 1938 Frank "Bruiser" Kinard 18 T Brooklyn Dodgers 1948 AAFC Len Ford 14 E Los Angeles Dons 1951 Mike McCormack 34 T New York Yanks 1952 Yale Lary 34 DB Detroit Lions 1953 Bob St. Clair 32 T San Francisco 49ers 1956 Sam Huff 30 LB New York Giants 1957 Tommy McDonald 31 WR Philadelphia Eagles 1958 Ray Nitschke 36 LB Green Bay Packers 1961 Fran Tarkenton 29 QB Minnesota Vikings (Also drafted in 5th round of 1961 AFL Draft by the Boston Patriots.) 1964 Dave Wilcox 29 LB San Francisco 49ers(Also drafted in 6th round -46th overall- of 1964 AFL Draft by Houston Oilers.) 1966 AFL Jan Stenerud n/a K Kansas City Chiefs (AFL "Red Shirt" draft.) 1968 Charlie Sanders 74 TE Detroit Lions 1968 Elvin Bethea 77 DE Houston Oilers 1968 Art Shell 80 T Oakland Raiders 1970 Mel Blount 53 CB Pittsburgh Steelers 1973 Dan Fouts 84 QB San Diego Chargers 1976 Jackie Slater 86 T Los Angeles Rams 1979 Joe Montana 82 QB San Francisco 49ers 1981 Russ Grimm 69 G Washington Redskins 1991 Aeneas Williams 59 CB Phoenix Cardinals 1993 Will Shields 74 G Kansas City Chiefs 1995 Curtis Martin 74 RB New England Patriots Back to top Fourth Round Year Player Overall Pos. Team 1949 Norm Van Brocklin 37 QB Los Angeles Rams (Also drafted in 11th round -78th overall- in 1949 AAFC draft by the Chicago Hornets.) 1957 Sonny Jurgensen 43 QB Philadelphia Eagles 1969 Charlie Joiner 93 WR Houston Oilers 1974 John Stallworth 82 WR Pittsburgh Steelers 1976 Harry Carson 105 LB New York Giants 1976 Steve Largent 117 WR Houston Oilers 1985 Andre Reed 86 WR Buffalo Bills 1986 Charles Haley 86 DE/LB San Francisco 49ers 1987 Cris Carter *n/a WR Philadelphia Eagles Back to top *Supplemental Draft Fifth Round Year Player Overall Pos. Team 1944 Bob Waterfield 42 QB Cleveland Rams (Drafted as a future selection.) 1945 Pete Pihos 41 E Philadelphia Eagles (Drafted as a future selection.) 1953 Stan Jones 54 G-DT Chicago Bears (Drafted as a future selection.) 1957 Henry Jordan 52 DT Cleveland Browns 1959 Dick LeBeau 58 CB Cleveland Browns 1974 Mike Webster 125 C Pittsburgh Steelers 1985 Kevin Greene 113 LB/DE Los Angeles Rams Back to top Sixth Round Year Player Overall Pos. Team 1951 Jack Christiansen 69 DB Detroit Lions Back to top Seventh Round Year Player Overall Pos. Team 1953 Jim Ringo 79 C Green Bay Packers 1953 Joe Schmidt 85 LB Detroit Lions 1957 Gene Hickerson 78 G Cleveland Browns (Drafted as a future selection.) 1958 Bobby Mitchell 84 HB Cleveland Browns 1960 Larry Wilson 74 DB St. Louis Cardinals (Also drafted in 1960 AFL Draft by the Buffalo Bills.) 1963 AFL Bobby Bell 56 LB Dallas Texans (Also drafted in 2nd round -16th overall- of 1963 NFL Draft by the Minnesota Vikings.) 1964 Bob Hayes 88 WR Dallas Cowboys (Drafted as future selection) (Also drafted in 14th round - 105th overall - as future choice of 1964 AFL Draft by Denver Broncos.) 1967 Rayfield Wright 182 T Dallas Cowboys 1990 Shannon Sharpe 192 TE Denver Broncos Back to top Eighth Round Year Player Overall Pos. Team 1936 Wayne Millner 65 E Boston Redskins 1964 Leroy Kelly 110 RB Cleveland Browns 1983 Richard Dent 203 DE Chicago Bears Back to top Ninth Round Year Player Overall Pos. Team 1936 Dan Fortmann 78 G Chicago Bears 1941 Tony Canadeo 77 HB Green Bay Packers 1955 Johnny Unitas 102 QB Pittsburgh Steelers (Cut before start of 1955 and then signed as free agent with Baltimore Colts in 1956.) 1957 Don Maynard 109 WR-HB New York Giants 1967 Ken Houston 214 S Houston Oilers Back to top Tenth Round Year Player Overall Pos. Team 1963 Jackie Smith 129 TE St. Louis Cardinals 1964 Roger Staubach 129 QB Dallas Cowboys (Drafted as a future selection. Also drafted as a future selection in 16th round -122nd overall- of 1964 AFL Draft by the Kansas City Chiefs.) Back to top Eleventh Round Year Player Overall Pos. Team 1945 Tom Fears 103 E Cleveland Rams (Drafted as a future selection.) Back to top Twelfth Round Year Player Overall Pos. Team 1947 Dante Lavelli 103 E Los Angeles Rams 1949 George Blanda 119 QB Chicago Bears (Also drafted in 2nd round - 9th overall- of 1949 AAFC Draft by the Chicago Hornets.) Back to top Thirteenth Round Year Player Overall Pos. Team 1962 AFL Nick Buoniconti 102 LB Boston Patriots Back to top Fourteenth Round Year Player Overall Pos. Team 1961 David "Deacon" Jones 186 DE Los Angeles Rams Back to top Fifteenth Round Year Player Overall Pos. Team 1956 Willie Davis 181 DE Cleveland Browns Back to top Seventeeth Round Year Player Overall Pos. Team 1945 Arnie Weinmeister 166 E Brooklyn Tigers 1956 Bart Starr 200 QB Green Bay Packers Back to top Eighteenth Round Year Player Overall Pos. Team 1965 Chris Hanburger 245 LB Washington Redskins Back to top Nineteeth Round Year Player Overall Pos. Team 1951 Andy Robustelli 228 DE Los Angeles Rams Back to top Twentieth Round Year Player Overall Pos. Team 1954 Raymond Berry 232 E Baltimore Colts (Drafted as a future selection.) Back to top Twenty-First Round Year Player Overall Pos. Team 1958 John Madden 244 T Philadelphia Eagles Back to top Twenty-Seventh Round Year Player Overall Pos. Team 1953 Roosevelt Brown 321 T New York Giants Back to top Special NFL Selections, 1950 Year Player Pos. Team 1950 Lou Creekmur T Detroit Lions (Selected by the Lions in the second round of a special draft in 1950. Originally drafted in 1948 by the Philadelphia Eagles in 26th round - 243rd overall - and the AAFC's Los Angeles Dons in 28th round - 197th overall. He opted to complete his college eligibility. 1950 Art Donovan DT Baltimore Colts (Selected by Baltimore Colts in 3rd round of special selection draft in 1950. A year later, after Colts disbanded, he was selected by Cleveland Browns in 4th round - 50th overall - but was traded to New York Yanks before the 1951 season began. Also selected in 22nd round - 204th overall- of 1947 NFL Draft by the New York Giants and in the 17th round - 131st overall - in the 1949 AAFC Draft by the Buffalo Bills.) Back to top Special AFL Selections, 1960 Year Player Overall Pos. Team 1960 AFL Jim Otto n/a C Oakland Raiders (Drafted among 33 players selected by the Raiders in the first round of the player pool selection process before the AFL's first season.) Back to top Free Agents Year Player Pos. Team 1946 Frank Gatski G Cleveland Browns (AAFC) 1946 Lou Groza T-K Cleveland Browns (AAFC) 1946 Marion Motley FB Cleveland Browns (AAFC) 1946 Bill Willis MG Cleveland Browns (AAFC) 1948 Joe Perry FB San Francisco 49ers (AAFC) 1948 Emlen Tunnell DB New York Giants 1951 Jack Butler CB Pittsburgh Steelers 1952 Dick "Night Train" Lane DB Los Angeles Rams 1960 Willie Wood DB Green Bay Packers 1962 Mick Tingelhoff C Minnesota Vikings 1963 Willie Brown DB Houston Oilers (Cut during training camp by Oilers and then signed by Denver Broncos.) 1966 Emmitt Thomas DB Kansas City Chiefs 1967 Larry Little G San Diego Chargers 1970 Jim Langer C Cleveland Browns (Cut by Browns during training camp and then signed by Miami Dolphins.) 1984 Warren Moon QB Houston Oilers 1990 John Randle DT Minnesota Vikings
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For fuck's sake man.
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What's your point? That because he was a high round selection means that someone should be able to watch the film and say he'll be a Hall of Famer? Cool, watch college tape of Steve Emtman and tell me your impressions. Also, the Chiefs, Patriots, and Jets were all pretty stupid in the 1983 draft. Why didn't they just put in the tape of Kelly (Chiefs) or Marino (all 3 teams), see the Hall of Famer, and draft him?
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