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Old 07-14-2022, 05:04 AM
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Smarter and richer than any of us, but can I just say FUCK GRIGSON!
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Old 07-14-2022, 11:55 AM
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while the grigson and the team he put together didnt do luck any favors, lets also not pretend that luck didnt play with some reckless abandon that added to his injuries which ultimately led to his early retirement.
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Old 07-14-2022, 07:37 PM
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I listened to all 6 episodes and although somewhat revealing, it didn't tell us anything that we already didn't know or suspect.

I also hat that Keefer completely glossed over the ski boarding incident.
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while the grigson and the team he put together didnt do luck any favors, lets also not pretend that luck didnt play with some reckless abandon that added to his injuries which ultimately led to his early retirement.
If Chris Ballard was the Colts GM from Day 1 of Andrew Luck's career, I firmly believe Andrew Luck would be the (minimum 1 time) world champion starting QB of the Indianapolis Colts today. The OL that Grigson surrounded Luck with was unacceptable and would never have been tolerated by Ballard.
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I haven't listened yet, but I always thought his retirement must've had more to do with things other than his injuries.

Maybe I'm wrong. But people always talked about his interests outside of football. And he got married before the season and his daughter was due in the middle of the season... Was it inevitable?

Guys like Patrick Willis, Calvin Johnson, Luke Kuechly, even Barry Sanders way back... They all got out early while still among the best at their positions, too.

It's just sick to think about because of what we saw in 2018. It was only going to get better.
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If Chris Ballard was the Colts GM from Day 1 of Andrew Luck's career, I firmly believe Andrew Luck would be the (minimum 1 time) world champion starting QB of the Indianapolis Colts today. The OL that Grigson surrounded Luck with was unacceptable and would never have been tolerated by Ballard.
I dont disagree, if we had ballard at the beginning of lucks career things would most likely be in better shape. But again, luck put himself in harms way too much. david shaw used to get mad at him for taking on linebackers at stanford, that was before he ever knew who grigson was.
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I haven't listened yet, but I always thought his retirement must've had more to do with things other than his injuries.

Maybe I'm wrong. But people always talked about his interests outside of football. And he got married before the season and his daughter was due in the middle of the season... Was it inevitable?

Guys like Patrick Willis, Calvin Johnson, Luke Kuechly, even Barry Sanders way back... They all got out early while still among the best at their positions, too.

It's just sick to think about because of what we saw in 2018. It was only going to get better.
I mean we really don’t know if he would’ve went out there half hearted trying only to fulfill an obligation we may have been yelling for him to retire anyway…. Who knows

I still believe he wanted to after the KC playoff game and was convinced to give it 1 more year, he tried to go thru the motions and couldn’t continue the charade
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Old 07-15-2022, 10:32 PM
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Anyone else checked out Luck, Zak Keefer's six-part podcast series?

I am not normally one to listen to podcasts, but this one I wasn't going to miss.

It's fantastic, as painful as it is to re-live what went down less than three years ago.

There's no shortage of interview sources. Jacoby Brissett provided some fantastic insight in the lead up to Andrew walking away from the game, and shortly afterwards when he took over at QB (shudders).

Anyway, it's ad free if you're an Athletic subscriber, or it can be found on Spotify etc.
I might. Don’t know. Still haven’t watched his goodbye speech.
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I have no interest in revisiting Andrew lucks retirement. He us a class guy, that made a shifty move by retiring a couple weeks before the season. His timing can probably be chalked up to dumb kid. I hate to say it, but he can kiss my ass.

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Luck is history. Loved the guy. Now though, let's go Ryan.
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