Hey Dam

[YDFL Commish]

Originally Posted by Coltsalr

Intentionally? No. He’s too incompetent to effectively evaluate talent.

It’s the same reason he started Tolzien and had TJ Green playing at CB in the opener.

How many times can I possibly thank this post?

[FatDT]

Originally Posted by Coltsalr

Intentionally? No. He’s too incompetent to effectively evaluate talent.

It’s the same reason he started Tolzien and had TJ Green playing at CB in the opener.

It's the same reason we had Satele at center for so long. It's the same reason we had Landry playing for too long, then somehow "earning" his starting job again after getting suspended. This is nothing new. Pagano and his staff have a long history of playing the wrong players.

It's like now with Vagovich.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by ChoppedWood

Scott Tolzein

As I said at the time, Brissett hadn't been here even a full week, and had he gone out and performed poorly, every single one of you would've criticized him for throwing him out there too quickly with too little understanding of the offense. As for Morris, look at the comments, Ballard clearly made that decision. Fortunately, he was smart enough to realize he needed someone better than Tolzien and went out and got Brissett.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by Coltsalr

Intentionally? No. He’s too incompetent to effectively evaluate talent.

It’s the same reason he started Tolzien and had TJ Green playing at CB in the opener.

If that were the case, you'd see a bunch of former Colts becoming starters and major contributors around the league. That doesn't happen because there's not some treasure trove of talent just sitting on the bench, waiting for their opportunity. Grigson left this roster in terrible shape, and Ballard was never going to be able to completely rebuild it in one offseason. If you have no good options (like at ILB or QB in week 1), you have to play the best bad option. That doesn't mean it isn't a bad option, or that Pagano thinks it's a good option.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by omahacolt

So now who is making him play guys? Ballard is making him play guys grigson drafted? Is that your excuse now?

No better option on the roster. This team's ILB corps is awful.

[Puck]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

If that were the case, you'd see a bunch of former Colts becoming starters and major contributors around the league. That doesn't happen because there's not some treasure trove of talent just sitting on the bench, waiting for their opportunity. Grigson left this roster in terrible shape, and Ballard was never going to be able to completely rebuild it in one offseason. If you have no good options (like at ILB or QB in week 1), you have to play the best bad option. That doesn't mean it isn't a bad option, or that Pagano thinks it's a good option.

Who is the starting center for the cardinals over the past few years?

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by Puck

Who is the starting center for the cardinals over the past few years?

Grigson made a lot of stupid decisions, trading Shipley was one, what's your point?

[omahacolt]

Originally Posted by Puck

Who is the starting center for the cardinals over the past few years?

never pagano, puck

pagano has never made a mistake according to this idiot

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by omahacolt

never pagano, puck

pagano has never made a mistake according to this idiot

Shipley was traded to the Ravens in the 2013 offseason, that's hardly something Pagano did.

[omahacolt]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

Shipley was traded to the Ravens in the 2013 offseason, that's hardly something Pagano did.

he was also brought back wasn't he? although i am not talking specifically about shipley