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Old 03-19-2020, 04:48 PM
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Well they just paid a guy in Armstead that has basically 1 great season with the other 4 years just ok. We got a guy that has been consistently disruptive.

Probably why many 49er fans would rather have kept Buckner over Armstead.

Time will tell. I think we are gonna look back and see that 21 million per well spent.
I read several posts from SF fans calling Buckner a franchise player. I love the sound of that!
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Here's 18 mins of Deforest Buckner highlights...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCVet2SDLU4&t=353s

Buckner and Houston are going to be deadly.
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Here's 18 mins of Deforest Buckner highlights...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCVet2SDLU4&t=353s

Buckner and Houston are going to be deadly.
I think the last time I was this excite about a trade was when Dickerson came to Indianapolis.
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I don't think that he will be getting Justin Houston's 99 anytime soon.

Buckner is now 99.

Houston changed his number to 50 (his number was 50 with KC)


Few other number updates:

Rivers is 17.
Ya-Sin is 26.
Rhodes is 27.
Carrie is 38.
Walker is 54.
Day is 91.


https://twitter.com/Colts/status/1247301881434714113

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Albert Breer of Sports Illustrated wrote a column about the 49er's off season including the decision to trade Buckner.


You can read the entire article via the link and I have excerpted a few quotes below:

https://www.si.com/nfl/2020/05/04/jo..._medium=social

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The Niners had kept Armstead and Buckner, their 2015 and ’16 first-round picks, together for as long as they were able to. A cap crunch loomed, as more big deals had to be accounted for on the horizon, for young stars like George Kittle and Bosa. Armstead had just played out the fifth-year option on a rookie deal, while Buckner was reaching his.

“We knew the Buckner domino was going to be the big one,” Lynch said.
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Segal (Buckner's agent) told the Niners’ brass that the average per year on any new deal would have to start with a “2.” Soon, it was agreed that the Niners wouldn’t be able to meet Buckner’s ask.
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Lynch: "We looked at every different way it could work. Our motivation certainly wasn’t getting rid of Buckner, because he’s one of our best players, and one of our best people. He embodies 49er way.”
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Lynch told Segal, "Buck’s earned it, so if you believe you can get that number, go get it. But you better bring back a first-round pick." With permission to seek a deal granted, Segal found Buckner’s money, and Lynch’s pick, faster than anyone anticipated.

“Not only did he bring back a first-round pick, he brought back the 13th pick,” Lynch said. “And then, it’s like, ‘Whoa, I didn’t think he’d do that.’ By that point, you start looking at how we can keep our team together. And I guess a long story short, it’s not something we wanted to do, but at a certain point, we felt like that was the best decision.”
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Bill Polian: Colts Have Added Most Important Person on Defense in DeForest Buckner

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https://www.1075thefan.com/featured/...orest-buckner/

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Bill Polian: Colts Have Added Most Important Person on Defense in DeForest Buckner

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https://www.1075thefan.com/featured/...orest-buckner/

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INDIANAPOLIS To become a true Super Bowl team, Bill Polian knew his defense needed an upgrade at that position.

Fittingly, some 14 years later, in the same role Polian was in for the Colts, Chris Ballard was sold on making a seismic trade, once he saw that position (and that player) impact the Super Bowl.

For Polian, it was giving away a second-round pick during a 2006 in-season trade for defensive tackle Booger McFarland.

For Ballard, it was sending the No. 13 overall pick this past March to the 49ers for defensive tackle DeForest Buckner.

Nearly a decade and a half span the two trades, but the value for that position, in virtually the same Tampa 2 defense, remains.

“The most important person in the defense, the key player is the 3-technique, the guy who is closest to the ball,” Polian, the Hall of Famer and former Colts President, explains. “He does the most disrupting. And he’s the guy who triggers the pass rush.

“We know, based on experience we’ve had with both Peyton (Manning) and (Tom) Brady, (Jim) Kelly and (Dan) Marino, almost any quarterback, but all the elite ones, hate people under their legs, hate people who can rush up the middle. The only people who have had success against Brady over time are those who can rush up the middle. If you can put pressure from the inside in the passing game, then the (Dwight) Freeney’s and (Robert) Mathis’ can really go to work.

“The fact that Buckner is an elite pass rusher from the inside, and also an elite run player gives you the opportunity for a really key defense. We did not get to a Super Bowl level until we got Bogger McFarland. And that’s on me. I didn’t do a good enough job of getting someone like that. Chris Ballard has learned that lesson and went out and got Buckner and that’s going to be huge for that defense.”

As Ballard watched Buckner in Super Bowl LIV, the GM fell more and more in love.

-It was the impactful sacks (1.5 for Buckner in the game) Buckner had against Patrick Mahomes.

-It was the constant high-level of effort, seeing a 6-7, 300-pounder stay alive in plays all over the field.

-It was Buckner still delivering pressure in the 4th quarter, showing off rare stamina for a defensive tackle.

When the Colts made the trade for Buckner, Ballard wanted everyone to go watch how he played in the Super Bowl.

“All you have to do was put on the Super Bowl,” Ballard said. “The great players produce in the great games. Just watch the Super Bowl, that guy played his ass off. And he was disruptive the entire game.”

Obviously, Ballard hopes Buckner (who is a far more consistent and disruptive player than McFarland was) can help the Colts get to the point where Polian and company got to more than a decade ago.

Jim Irsay certainly has fond memories of those days, and that 2006 season, in which the defense did plenty of heavy lifting in capturing Super Bowl LI.

The Owner is quite happy to have a difference maker back at such a critical position.

“He’s special,” Irsay said of Buckner, when speaking to Colts.com earlier this offseason. “The long arms, the knee bend, to be 6-7, to play inside like that is remarkable. He’s never on the ground, he’s so sudden. Even though he’s 6-7, he’s just really, really, really a remarkable athlete, and quite frankly, I use this this word carefully ...... but I just can’t even think of anyone that was like him. To be that size and to play inside like that, I mean, you have to realize what kind of athlete you have to be. And he gets double teamed and he still makes plays, because he’s never on the ground and he never quits."

“He’s special, and he’s a special leader.”

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DeForest Buckner Proves He Belongs in Defensive Player of the Year Conversation

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https://www.indystar.com/story/sport...ar/3924184001/

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DeForest Buckner Proves He Belongs in Defensive Player of the Year Conversation

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https://www.indystar.com/story/sport...ar/3924184001/

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Thanks for the post. If you want some further real-world confirmation of the success of this trade, check out the 49ers fanboards to read some of their whining. Here are a few quick examples if you're curious:

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Harsh reminder not to trade young, blue chip players with great intangibles unless you're getting a godfather offer
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He is a great player will root for him. but no longer on the niners.
Time to move on guys.
Holding on like a ex girlfriend
https://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/n...search=buckner

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Seems like he is playing better. Lo. The niners are stuck with kinlaw and no cap space.
https://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/n...colts/page471/

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So I guess it's just a coincidence that Buckner has been on two great defenses?
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But apparently not the Pro Bowl? That's a snub if there ever was one.
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