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Old 02-22-2018, 08:23 PM
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Yes. And as I just explained, that is not a problem for well-run school districts, as it is for poorer school districts that are underfunded and have overcrowded classrooms.

More significantly, that has little to do with the topic at hand. A teacher that was employed and entrusted by that school district body-slammed a student over a box of chocolates, and was immediately fired. The fact that it was a substitute teacher as opposed to a tenured teacher has no relevance to any of the parents of the kids from that school district who were horrified and outraged at what happened. They're not particularly concerned about the distinction, and I'm sure that they take no comfort in the fact that it was not a tenured teacher.



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No, a babysitter did it, not a teacher.


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Considering how obstinate you continue to be, I'm not going to bother explaining this to you anymore.

It was a teacher that did this to the kid, whether you like it or not. Nobody involved in this particular situation (the kids that witnessed it, the parents of said kids, the school system which fired him, or even the press which covered it) is making the distinction and arguing the point of it being a substitute teacher as opposed to a tenured teacher, and why that subsequently changes everything (which is what you are bent on insisting.)



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Considering how obstinate you continue to be, I'm not going to bother explaining this to you anymore.

It was a teacher that did this to the kid, whether you like it or not. Nobody involved in this particular situation (the kids that witnessed it, the parents of said kids, the school system which fired him, or even the press which covered it) is making the distinction and arguing the point of it being a substitute teacher as opposed to a tenured teacher, and why that subsequently changes everything (which is what you are bent on insisting.)



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Yeah, I'm being obstinate. And, yeah, you're not going to explain it again.

As for accuracy, compare your thread title to the title of the article. There is where the real story is.
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Also, it HAS to be noted that you keep saying "tenured teacher" instead of licensed teacher. There is a distinction there, too. That said, I have never seen teachers, licensed or licensed and tenured do some of the things that subs do. Subs do not all have the training or mindset of real teachers. Yes, some are former teachers and some have the right heart for kids. Most teachers only call the good ones, but sometimes have to scrape the bottom of the barrel and get bad ones. Word gets out and those do not get called again.

I DO agree that in the mind of the parents, the distinction is irrelevant. However, to paint this as the same as a regular teacher is so irresponsible that even a newspaper won't stoop so low. Let that sink in for a moment.
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