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Old 10-24-2022, 08:43 PM
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Everyone chill. this is them trying to win this year. this is not a fire sale. Ryan is cooked. The dude looks like he is 900 years old, has terrible decision-making, and can't hold on to the football (or not make dumb ass interceptions). Just like the O-line, and Facyson-they are actively trying to make the right decisions.

Not saying Sam is going to be the answer, but it sure wasnt Ryan, and they're making the change to see if he can do it. I am personally pumped.
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Old 10-24-2022, 08:45 PM
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I would sell Leonard in a heart beat, but not JT or Buckner!
If we can get JT right, meaning back to where he was, I would definitely sell him. He would command a kings ransom, if that were the case.

You don't win SB's with an elite running game in the NFL, you just don't. You also don't win by paying your super star RB a boat load of money. See Panthers and Cowboys and Titans.
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Old 10-24-2022, 09:50 PM
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If we can get JT right, meaning back to where he was, I would definitely sell him. He would command a kings ransom, if that were the case.

You don't win SB's with an elite running game in the NFL, you just don't. You also don't win by paying your super star RB a boat load of money. See Panthers and Cowboys and Titans.
I get your point, and I guess it would depend on what teams would offer, but if what you are saying is true why would teams be willing to give up so much for a player that won't get them to the promise land? I think a great back like JT makes it possible for just an above average QB to be enough to win a lot of games, provided you also have a top 10 defense.

I think the Colts would be better off going that route (top 10 D, JT, solid receivers, above average QB) than trying to get a franchise superstar QB. We had Peyton and Luck for 20+ seasons and only have 2 super bowl appearances and 1 championship to show for it!
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Old 10-24-2022, 10:14 PM
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You don't win SB's with an elite running game in the NFL
I understand you're saying this is a passing league (I agree), but I had to look this up on a hunch. Maybe you'll find it interesting, too. I looked at the past 10 Super Bowl participants rushing rankings. The past two Super Bowls did not have teams with big run games, but prior to that...


2019 - SF (#2)

2018 - NE (#5), LAR (#3)

2017 - PHI (#3), NE (#10)

2016 - NE (#7), ATL (#5)

2015 - CAR (#2)

2014 - SEA (#1)

2013 - SEA (#4)

2012 - SF (#4), BAL (#10)
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Old 10-25-2022, 12:11 AM
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I understand you're saying this is a passing league (I agree), but I had to look this up on a hunch. Maybe you'll find it interesting, too. I looked at the past 10 Super Bowl participants rushing rankings. The past two Super Bowls did not have teams with big run games, but prior to that...


2019 - SF (#2)

2018 - NE (#5), LAR (#3)

2017 - PHI (#3), NE (#10)

2016 - NE (#7), ATL (#5)

2015 - CAR (#2)

2014 - SEA (#1)

2013 - SEA (#4)

2012 - SF (#4), BAL (#10)
Fair enough, but how many of those teams had a superstar highly paid RB. I guess you could argue Gurley, who was washed by that SB and Lynch which was almost 10 years ago. The NFL has changed since 2014.
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Old 10-25-2022, 07:46 AM
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I feel like this is a tough question given we have no idea what’s going to happen next year.

If they can pull off a high 1st for Leonard I think you pull that trigger. I don’t think that speaks to Leonard’s ability as much as it indicates Indianapolis’ objective concession that they are just not ready to compete right now.

If they can get multiple picks for Taylor, just do it.

I guess I’m with Omaha for the rest of them. If the price is right, why not? Outside of Nelson, idk who else on the team would demand that much interest.
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Old 10-25-2022, 08:18 AM
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I imagine Buckner would as well
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Old 10-25-2022, 11:09 AM
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I imagine Buckner would as well
Except I'm not for tearing down the defense that has performed well under Bradley.

It's the offense that needs a revamp. So let's not create a problem to solve a problem.
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Old 10-25-2022, 11:35 AM
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I don't sell shit. This team is talented, and for the most part, talented with young guys that have big promise. If Sam goes off which is unlikely, but if he does, then this team can suddenly become a long term force with a real chance to be consistent contender. If he sucks, get a stud QB, next year will be rough, but after that, with all these weapons and what looks like a loaded ass D for a while- we can be real serious again.
There's not a player in the entire NFL that is untradeable IMO. Everyone has a price, it's professional football. If the price is right, make the deal. You simply have to believe you're getting an offer you can't refuse.
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Old 10-28-2022, 10:47 PM
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I don't know about selling off the talent but it is time to fire the dipshit twins.
Let's see now...their names wouldn't happen to start with "B" and "R" would they?
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