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Old 02-05-2019, 09:22 AM
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If they are going to continue with the 2 A gap DT idea I wonder if there is another skill set they will be looking for.
Lengthy tweener DE/DT types? Check out my other post and let me know what those 5 players have in common.
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I suspect this strategy was more compensatory (trying to cover for the limitations of the current DL) than being a central part of the defensive scheme.
Agree. But what is they built around that philosophy? It seemed to work well
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Lengthy tweener DE/DT types? Check out my other post and let me know what those 5 players have in common.
So Clowney. Big enough and quick enough
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Agree. But what is they built around that philosophy? It seemed to work well
It worked well until it didn't. New looks work well because opposing teams aren't prepared for them.
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SS would probably rank as the #2 need on the team for me behind DE/pass rusher. Geathers and Farley are both good when healthy, but health is an issue for both. Johnathan Abram is a guy in the draft who I think could come in and solve that issue, or Landon Collins in free agency should he get there.
Agreed on Abram and Collins, but Abram has his own medical concerns after failing his physical (shoulder) and not being able to play at the Senior Bowl.
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So Clowney. Big enough and quick enough
I'd prefer Lawrence, Clark, or Ford to Clowney, but if the Texans decide they don't want him and he doesn't want break the bank money, Clowney would be a decent add.
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I'd prefer Lawrence, Clark, or Ford to Clowney, but if the Texans decide they don't want him and he doesn't want break the bank money, Clowney would be a decent add.
I wouldn't be surprised if Lawrence isn't even on the Colts draft board. This scheme doesn't emphasize 2 gap players.
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I wouldn't be surprised if Lawrence isn't even on the Colts draft board. This scheme doesn't emphasize 2 gap players.
Pretty sure he meant DeMarcus Lawrence from the Cowgirls as a free agent. Also Frank Clark from SEA and Dee Ford from KC as free agents.

None of those guys are tweeners; they are all pure outside pass rush Freeney want-a-bees.

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Pretty sure he meant DeMarcus Lawrence from the Cowgirls as a free agent. Also Frank Clark from SEA and Dee Ford from KC as free agents.

None of those guys are tweeners; they are all pure outside pass rush Freeney want-a-bees.

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Clark is listed at 6'3" 265, as is DeMarcus Lawrence, and top rush trait for both players is their length. They both timed fairly slow for DEs as well (each ran a ~4.8 40). They've obviously both had success as outside rushers, but neither is going to be mistaken for Dwight Freeney any time soon (though Freeney was sort of one of a kind, 6'1" 270 DEs that run a 4.4 40 don't happen often). These are the types of players the Colts will likely look for, DE/DT types in the 6'3"-6'7" 260-300 range who have long arms and large wingspans. I mentioned about 5 players earlier who fit this mold, several of which had good Senior Bowl weeks, which seems to influence Ballard. Charles Omenihu is the one who most fits this bill IMO.

The other type of DE they might look for is one in the Robert Mathis type mold, a player with good speed and pass rush skill who might be considered slightly undersized for traditional 4-3 DE (6'2" 250 ~4.5 40 type of player). That's what they tried to draft in Kemoko Turay. Dee Ford fits this mold perfectly.
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I wouldn't be surprised if Lawrence isn't even on the Colts draft board. This scheme doesn't emphasize 2 gap players.
I'd take Lawrence over Wilkins if I had to draft one of the Clemson DTs. You just don't see guys his size move with the agility that he displays. Wilkins doesn't impress me as a gap penetrator. I would like if Jeffery Simmons dropped to the Colts, but that doesn't seem likely and Ballard might not even pick him because of character concerns.
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