Hey Dam

[Butter]

Originally Posted by omahacolt

pagano wanted to bring in a known bad player.

how do you not get this?

Does not fit his narrative.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by omahacolt

pagano wanted to bring in a known bad player.

how do you not get this?

It was 2012, they just cut half the roster and had about half the cap in penalties (that last part may be exaggerated slightly, but a good chunk of that team's cap figure was penalties). They weren't expecting to compete and they needed someone to play safety. He was a body that they likely were looking to replace immediately. If you expect every single player the team signs or drafts to be successful, you're going to be disappointed.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by Butter

Does not fit his narrative.

What narrative? That looking at the facts and circumstances behind an outcome is important? Because that's all I've been doing here.

[Racehorse]

Originally Posted by smitty46953

Do all you guys argue with Stop signs?

The stop sign puts up a better argument.

[omahacolt]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

It was 2012, they just cut half the roster and had about half the cap in penalties (that last part may be exaggerated slightly, but a good chunk of that team's cap figure was penalties). They weren't expecting to compete and they needed someone to play safety. He was a body that they likely were looking to replace immediately. If you expect every single player the team signs or drafts to be successful, you're going to be disappointed.

Hahaha you are saying this. About guys to defend pagano. But rip grigson in the same breath.

Holy shit two face

[apballin]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

It was 2012, they just cut half the roster and had about half the cap in penalties (that last part may be exaggerated slightly, but a good chunk of that team's cap figure was penalties). They weren't expecting to compete and they needed someone to play safety. He was a body that they likely were looking to replace immediately. If you expect every single player the team signs or drafts to be successful, you're going to be disappointed.

Exactly this a serviceable guy that wouldn't cost much

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by omahacolt

Hahaha you are saying this. About guys to defend pagano. But rip grigson in the same breath.

Holy shit two face

Your criticism lacks merit. Pagano isn't in talent acquisition, so the only thing we could really be talking about with Zbikowski in relation to Pagano is his development, or lack thereof. That said, they have a saying in the analytical world for this sort of thing: garbage in, garbage out.

[Dewey 5]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

Your criticism lacks merit. Pagano isn't in talent acquisition, so the only thing we could really be talking about with Zbikowski in relation to Pagano is his development, or lack thereof. That said, they have a saying in the analytical world for this sort of thing: garbage in, garbage out.

Zbikowski played for Baltimore when Pagano was there. Pagano brought him to Indy because he wanted a guy that was familiar with his type of system. Pagano wasn't able to see that Zib sucked even though he saw him day & day out. Zbikowski was all Pagano. It's pretty simple.

[omahacolt]

Originally Posted by Dewey 5

Zbikowski played for Baltimore when Pagano was there. Pagano brought him to Indy because he wanted a guy that was familiar with his type of system. Pagano wasn't able to see that Zib sucked even though he saw him day & day out. Zbikowski was all Pagano. It's pretty simple.

Not to dam. This is black and white when it suits his purpose.

[Dam8610]

Why are you all so obsessed with Zbikowski? He was a bad player who they knew was bad and sought to replace as soon as possible. He was also necessary because they needed a body.