Predicting Every NFL Team's 2020 Quarterback (Dan Graziano)

[Puck]

Originally Posted by DrSpaceman

I have never had that impression with Mack

Most of the plays he loses yardage on he just has no chance at all because or poor blocking.

Its one thing to beat one guy and break a tackle. When you have two or three in the backfield right as the play is starting, you don't have much of a chance

And he did recently reverse field for a nice gain on a play where the original design went right, he stopped and went back left.

Same line as Gore.... Gore gets hit and gains yards. Mack doesn't. I agree he is a big play threat. And what GBB has said about the way defenses play him vs Gore is different. If that in fact is the case then you have to keep playing Gore more snaps because it works. Wow possible good coaching there.

Yes he has a good yards per carry average but it is elevated due to his big plays.

Look at his stats. Most of his yards are from one play per game so that one play exaggerates his yes/carry....the rest of the time he is a below average RB

http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/gamel...05/marlon-mack

Other than the SF game he has not been good at all

Look at the stats and take the one big run out of the Rams Tenn Jac and Houston games and he is averaging less than 2.5 yards per carry.


I don't know. I just don't see the hype yet

I'd take Gore every day over Mack

[Mr. Session]

I agree. Mack has to continue to be our change of pace guy.

I think they need to be more creative about how they get him the ball to help accentuate his talents, but that can't mean just taking out Gore and plugging in Mack and running the same stuff. Get him more touches but do it smart, don't ask him to be Frank.

I have never seen a Colt RB get to the LOS and attack holes like Gore. It's been a while since James, so maybe I just don't remember. I've seen guys look like they have Gore in the gap, absolutely dead to rights, and Gore's move will be so fast and decisive he almost always gets back to the LOS.

[Racehorse]

I am not as down on our line as many of you are. I think that if we were not so predictable with the pays we cal, the defense would not know exactly when to blitz and when to stack the box. The pay-calling puts the line in an impossible situation. That said, it would not upset me at all if we picked a stud OT to add to the roster, but LBs are more critical of a need, plus better coaching that would give the line an opportunity to do what it needs to do. Offensive lines in the league are all pretty poor in today's league.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by Racehorse

Offensive lines in the league are all pretty poor in today's league.

Except Dallas.

[IndyNorm]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

An offense that disappears for quarters at a time and gives up crucial possessions and sometimes points in the latter stages of games doesn't help matters either. But no one seems to want to acknowledge that the offense is very young overall and going through growing pains while the defense is average at best art its most crucial position, which causes them to get beat, especially when they have to be on the field for huge chunks of quarters and halves.

Do you honestly believe that the play calling has nothing to do with the offense disappearing for quarters at a time?

[IndyNorm]

Originally Posted by omahacolt

Manning did the same thing.

True, but Peyton was close to the end of his career and coming off like 3 neck surgeries. Luck is still in his 20s and (supposedly) had routine shoulder surgery. Hope whatever he's doing over there works out, but I'm not going to hold my breath.

[Mr. Session]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

Except Dallas.

I'm starting to wonder how important Tyron Smith is for the boys.

I heard Dallas didn't schemed 0 runs to the left during his absence.

- unrelated but I got some cowboy fans who like to gas up Prescott and act like he's better than Luck. Watching Prescott get smacked around because Zeke wasn't giving him 3rd and shorts to convert was almost comical.

[Spike]

Originally Posted by Mr. Session

I'm starting to wonder how important Tyron Smith is for the boys.

I heard Dallas didn't schemed 0 runs to the left during his absence.

- unrelated but I got some cowboy fans who like to gas up Prescott and act like he's better than Luck. Watching Prescott get smacked around because Zeke wasn't giving him 3rd and shorts to convert was almost comical.

To me, Tyron Smith is more important than Elliott and Sean Lee. Dak can't do shit without him.

[DrSpaceman]

Originally Posted by Puck

Same line as Gore.... Gore gets hit and gains yards. Mack doesn't. I agree he is a big play threat. And what GBB has said about the way defenses play him vs Gore is different. If that in fact is the case then you have to keep playing Gore more snaps because it works. Wow possible good coaching there.

Yes he has a good yards per carry average but it is elevated due to his big plays.

Look at his stats. Most of his yards are from one play per game so that one play exaggerates his yes/carry....the rest of the time he is a below average RB

http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/gamel...05/marlon-mack

Other than the SF game he has not been good at all

Look at the stats and take the one big run out of the Rams Tenn Jac and Houston games and he is averaging less than 2.5 yards per carry.


I don't know. I just don't see the hype yet

I'd take Gore every day over Mack

Gore never has a big run.

You sound like Polian when he used to talk about the COlts piss poor run D on his show. "Well if you just ignore this play and that play (the biggest ones of the game), we did pretty good!!"

The point is Mack can be that back that IS a big play threat and can make those game changing plays if they put him in position to do so

Gore is not. Gore is not going to break a run for 50 yards in a game changing or momentum changing play.

Good coaches are supposed to know how to utilize such talent and maximize it. These coaches obviously don't. Their idea is to give Mack the same plays as Gore and hope he can make a big play with his speed. If that is what they continue to do with him, I agree, its a waste. He is not the between the tackles back to fight for 3-4 yards

[Puck]

Originally Posted by DrSpaceman

Gore never has a big run.

You sound like Polian when he used to talk about the COlts piss poor run D on his show. "Well if you just ignore this play and that play (the biggest ones of the game), we did pretty good!!"

The point is Mack can be that back that IS a big play threat and can make those game changing plays if they put him in position to do so

Gore is not. Gore is not going to break a run for 50 yards in a game changing or momentum changing play.

Good coaches are supposed to know how to utilize such talent and maximize it. These coaches obviously don't. Their idea is to give Mack the same plays as Gore and hope he can make a big play with his speed. If that is what they continue to do with him, I agree, its a waste. He is not the between the tackles back to fight for 3-4 yards

Mack has had 5 double digit yard runs. Totaling 106 yards
Gores top 5 double digit runs total 85 yards
So in 5 rushes Mack averaged 4.2 more yards per carry. All other runs he is averaging 2.0 yards per carry. Gore averages 3.0 yards per carry.




Mack had a 24 yard run against the Rams... sounds great but he had 10 carries in that game for a total of 24 yards. 9 rushes zero gain.

In the Tenn game he had a long run of 22 yards His stat line was 2 rushes for 18 yards. So run 2 was a loss of 4.

He has big runs. He he does.... but he loses more yards than most fans realize.

Arizona he had 6 carries for -3 yards and a long of 3.

He is not even close to being able to replace Gore.... in fact if they feel the need to replace Gore they need to sign a FA or draft a starting RB