With the third pick....

[Indiana V2]

I initially voted to trade back, but I'm leaning towards a disruptive pass rusher.

[VeveJones007]

Originally Posted by apballin

Last year 3 RB's went 1st round

All 3 teams made the playoffs

A dynamic back like Barkley can make a hell of a difference

No, two RBs went in the 1st round last year. Yes, both of their teams made the playoffs, but two RBs in the 3rd round had better years and both of their teams also made the playoffs.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by Indiana V2

I initially voted to trade back, but I'm leaning towards a disruptive pass rusher.

Is that guy there, though? Chubb could be, he could not be. If you have to squint too much to see it, it might be wiser to trade down and pick up Roquon Smith or someone else that they feel will be a playmaker.

[nate505]

Originally Posted by rcubed

I would prefer a bad ass defensive player, but if ballard actually takes barkley, I wont kill him for it.

Same here. If he really is the next AP then I couldn't be too upset. It also doesn't hurt his case when there is not a Von Miller slam dunk defensive pass rusher or a sure fire 10+ year pro bowler tackle available.

[VeveJones007]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

Is that guy there, though? Chubb could be, he could not be. If you have to squint too much to see it, it might be wiser to trade down and pick up Roquon Smith or someone else that they feel will be a playmaker.

Might be able to trade down to 5 or 6 and still get Chubb. I'd feel very good about that.

[sherck]

Originally Posted by VeveJones007

Might be able to trade down to 5 or 6 and still get Chubb. I'd feel very good about that.

#3 overall is valued at 2,200 points according to most charts.

#5 overall (1,700) + 2nd round 5th pick, #37 overall (530) = 2,230 points. About an even trade with us perhaps having to throw in a 6th or 7th round pick to even it out.

To drop from #5 with same year compensation, you need to drop down to #11 overall to get another 2nd rounder:

#11 overall (1,250) + 2nd round 11th pick, #43 overall (470) = 1,720 points.

So, some of the options appear to be something like:

Option A = Pick #03 + #35.

Option B = Pick #05 + #35 + #37

Option C = Pick #11 + #35 + #37 + #43

Honestly, I choose option C above. 4 guys in the top 43 beats 2 guys in the top 35 when we have as many holes on our roster as we do.

Of course, you can slide down less from pick #5 if you want to just pick up 3rd or 4th round choices instead of 2nd round choices. I would rather get guys in the top 50 than guys in the 100s.

Walk Worthy,

[YDFL Commish]

Originally Posted by sherck

To drop from #5 with same year compensation, you need to drop down to #11 overall to get another 2nd rounder:

Option C = Pick #11 + #35 + #37 + #43

Walk Worthy,

I really like this scenario. Because it could yield:

#11 Harold Landry
#35 Sony Michel
#37 Will Hernandez

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by sherck

#3 overall is valued at 2,200 points according to most charts.

#5 overall (1,700) + 2nd round 5th pick, #37 overall (530) = 2,230 points. About an even trade with us perhaps having to throw in a 6th or 7th round pick to even it out.

To drop from #5 with same year compensation, you need to drop down to #11 overall to get another 2nd rounder:

#11 overall (1,250) + 2nd round 11th pick, #43 overall (470) = 1,720 points.

So, some of the options appear to be something like:

Option A = Pick #03 + #35.

Option B = Pick #05 + #35 + #37

Option C = Pick #11 + #35 + #37 + #43

Honestly, I choose option C above. 4 guys in the top 43 beats 2 guys in the top 35 when we have as many holes on our roster as we do.

Of course, you can slide down less from pick #5 if you want to just pick up 3rd or 4th round choices instead of 2nd round choices. I would rather get guys in the top 50 than guys in the 100s.

Walk Worthy,

I understand the draft value charts, but they're static and don't take into account things like a team deciding they have to have a certain player, i.e. Washington with RGIII. I'm really hoping Denver ends up deciding they need a certain QB (don't care which one as long as they're likely to be available at 3) and "overpays" based on the draft chart to move up to 3 while the Colts get 5, 36, and Denver's 2019 1. They still have their choice of defender at 5 in all likelihood, and there are still trade opportunities there if for some reason the front office feels this draft is deeper than it is topheavy.

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

I understand the draft value charts, but they're static and don't take into account things like a team deciding they have to have a certain player, i.e. Washington with RGIII. I'm really hoping Denver ends up deciding they need a certain QB (don't care which one as long as they're likely to be available at 3) and "overpays" based on the draft chart to move up to 3 while the Colts get 5, 36, and Denver's 2019 1. They still have their choice of defender at 5 in all likelihood, and there are still trade opportunities there if for some reason the front office feels this draft is deeper than it is topheavy.

Not sure we can swing this but I'm all in favor of more draft picks. I'm just not enamored with who's likely hitting free agency and we have a lot of holes to fill. I would go out and pay whatever it takes to get Pugh from the giants and then one other quality starter at a position of need. Overpay if necessary. Follow that up with a slew of picks in the draft and we should see improvement on the field.

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by rcubed

I am finding it harder to pass up Barkley. I know I shouldn't draft a RB that high with our line issues, but he does look awesome. Draft him, build the line with best FA available and some picks over the next two years....

If ballard truly goes with BPA, I could see him pick barkley.

In the end, I would probably pick chubb though.

I wouldn't feel too bad, they guy is a dynamic weapon. And not just a RB but a WR too and maybe best pass blocking back in the draft. Venturi had a nice quote, he was told early on by another coach that you draft a guy who gets the ball in the end zone or goes after the QB with a top ten pick.