Desir

[JAFF]

Originally Posted by Puck

What Dam posted is a pretty good offer. Ballard is holding onto money and IMO it’s to sign their own. He deserves it. Maybe even a little more that 2/16

You don't think another team could top that?

[JAFF]

Originally Posted by Racehorse

2/$16M would be considered life changing money to most.

You think this is no other team who wants him other than the Colts? Its' good money, but this is free agency and dumb teams make dumb offers. Why take less until you find out what others want to spend?

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by JAFF

You think this is no other team who wants him other than the Colts? Its' good money, but this is free agency and dumb teams make dumb offers. Why take less until you find out what others want to spend?

You seem to be obsessed with him testing the market for some reason. That doesn't make a lot of sense for a player when the team he's on extends him a good offer. I doubt he'd see more than 3/27 on the open market, with most of that being funny money. I could see the Colts going 3/24 with 12 guaranteed (1st year salary, 2nd year roster bonus) to get it done without going to free agency. His agent would probably tell him to sign that deal, though not sure you would.

[JAFF]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

You seem to be obsessed with him testing the market for some reason. That doesn't make a lot of sense for a player when the team he's on extends him a good offer. I doubt he'd see more than 3/27 on the open market, with most of that being funny money. I could see the Colts going 3/24 with 12 guaranteed (1st year salary, 2nd year roster bonus) to get it done without going to free agency. His agent would probably tell him to sign that deal, though not sure you would.

Ok, lets look at this without a fans bias.

1. He has an agent. While they should not be able to talk to other teams until a certain time, lets face it, it happens.

2. IF the Colts have made him a better offer than what his agent has heard, why wouldn't he sign?

3. Maybe he's playing poker. He has played well and has physical abilities that others don't have.

4. This isn't about me wanting him to leave. This about him getting the best deal. He's one injury away from being out of the league. He's nuts if he doesn't explore every avenue to maximize his income.

5. He doesn't owe the Colts a damn thing. He came in and has played his ass off for two years. This may be the only time where he has the advantage in free agency over a team. His job is to take care of his wife and kids, and to get the best deal he can get.

I want him back. I love guys like this. They defy the odds and make it and make a difference. I'm hoping Ballard has asked for the chance to counter any offer. The kid deserves that.

[Racehorse]

Originally Posted by JAFF

You think this is no other team who wants him other than the Colts? Its' good money, but this is free agency and dumb teams make dumb offers. Why take less until you find out what others want to spend?

But that was not the point.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by JAFF

Ok, lets look at this without a fans bias.

1. He has an agent. While they should not be able to talk to other teams until a certain time, lets face it, it happens.

2. IF the Colts have made him a better offer than what his agent has heard, why wouldn't he sign?

3. Maybe he's playing poker. He has played well and has physical abilities that others don't have.

4. This isn't about me wanting him to leave. This about him getting the best deal. He's one injury away from being out of the league. He's nuts if he doesn't explore every avenue to maximize his income.

5. He doesn't owe the Colts a damn thing. He came in and has played his ass off for two years. This may be the only time where he has the advantage in free agency over a team. His job is to take care of his wife and kids, and to get the best deal he can get.

I want him back. I love guys like this. They defy the odds and make it and make a difference. I'm hoping Ballard has asked for the chance to counter any offer. The kid deserves that.

Why do you assume I'm looking at it with fan bias? Vontae Davis got 4/36 when he was 25 and looked like one of the top ten CBs in the NFL. Desir is 28 and not even arguably a top ten CB in the NFL. No team will want to go 4 years with him, and I can't see him going $9 million AAV. So 3/27 is the max deal I can see. That's why I think he signs if Ballard offers 3/24. Chasing $3 million in the market that you might not even get is not something players like to do.

[FatDT]

I gotta say I don’t care enough about Desir to get this deep into a conversation about his contract.

[JAFF]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

Why do you assume I'm looking at it with fan bias? Vontae Davis got 4/36 when he was 25 and looked like one of the top ten CBs in the NFL. Desir is 28 and not even arguably a top ten CB in the NFL. No team will want to go 4 years with him, and I can't see him going $9 million AAV. So 3/27 is the max deal I can see. That's why I think he signs if Ballard offers 3/24. Chasing $3 million in the market that you might not even get is not something players like to do.

Thats what you think. We will see what happens in the real world

[Coltsalr]

Looks like JAFF gets his burning wish:

@gmbremer
Looks likely Clayton Geathers, Pierre Desir and Dontrelle Inman will be allowed to test the market. #Colts would like to have all three back and are talking with agents but they’ll see how things play out

[sherck]

Originally Posted by Coltsalr

Looks like JAFF gets his burning wish:



@gmbremer

Looks likely Clayton Geathers, Pierre Desir and Dontrelle Inman will be allowed to test the market. #Colts would like to have all three back and are talking with agents but they’ll see how things play out

Dang. I was hoping to keep Desir onboard.

I think there is zero chance he is not signed by someone early. He played too well and there are never enough quality CBs floating around.

Walk Worthy,

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