Kiper says Colts and Dolphins are working on 1st round trade

[ZiaColt]

Originally Posted by rm1369

I’d guess Ballard wants additional picks more than he wants to improve the quality of his existing pics. Moving pics from rounds 5, 6, and 7 up into rounds 2, 3, and maybe 4 might work. But I think his goal is to get as many chances as he can in rounds 1, 2, and 3 where you have a better chance of acquiring starter level talent.

no doubt, but I'm not sure where those additional picks in the higher rounds would come from, especially in a trade with Miami. Maybe 2019 picks, but I'm not a big fan of future picks. The trade I listed at least allows Ballard to move from 3rd (#67) to 2nd (#42) and from 4th (#104) to 3rd (#73). And someone like Smith, Edmunds or Fitzpatrick should still be there at #11.

If, and only if, Chubb is already gone at #6, I'd think about making that kind of trade if it were offered (rather than using the pick on Nelson). If Barkley's still there at #6, my fear is that the owner will "overrule" the GM and use the pick rather than trading it.

[Maniac]

There is absolutely no way the Colts would do that deal and not get the #11 pick from them.

[ZiaColt]

Originally Posted by JesusChrist

There is absolutely no way the Colts would do that deal and not get the #11 pick from them.

the trade I listed? They do, that's one of the major points of it. Colts send #6 to Miami for #11, but also move up from #67 to #42 and from #104 to #73. They still get an impact player at #11 (Smith, James, Fitzpatrick, maybe Edmunds if the 49ers don't take him) and they increase their chances of finding major contributors, if not starters, in Rounds 2 and 3 with #36, #37, #42, #49 and #73.

But the whole trade would hinge on 1) Chubb already being gone, 2) a QB still being available, and 3) Miami being convinced he could be their eventual QB.

I'm not sold on Mayfield or Allen myself, but I may be in the minority at this point.

[Spike]

Originally Posted by JesusChrist

There is absolutely no way the Colts would do that deal and not get the #11 pick from them.

I totally agree. This is one reason I think this report is total bullshit.

[njcoltfan]

Originally Posted by YDFL Commish

I call bullshit, on this rumor.

That shithead Florioisadick at PFT has not mentioned anything all day about this reported trade rumor, so I agree with you...... BULLSHIT!!

[ZiaColt]

Originally Posted by Spike

I totally agree. This is one reason I think this report is total bullshit.

Overall, the report sounds credible in a very general sense (that both sides may be talking) but the part about Miami keeping #11 does sound like a leak to Kiper planted by someone in the Dolphins building.

If I'm Ballard the trade HAS to start with getting #11 and then I ask Miami's GM "what else you offering?"

[Coltsalr]

Originally Posted by ZiaColt

Overall, the report sounds credible in a very general sense (that both sides may be talking) but the part about Miami keeping #11 does sound like a leak to Kiper planted by someone in the Dolphins building.

If I'm Ballard the trade HAS to start with getting #11 and then I ask Miami's GM "what else you offering?"

Laremy Tunsil (to move back to Guard where he excelled in 2016 as a rookie) would be an intriguing sweetener to offering us the #11 overall pick.

[Spike]

Originally Posted by ZiaColt

Overall, the report sounds credible in a very general sense (that both sides may be talking) but the part about Miami keeping #11 does sound like a leak to Kiper planted by someone in the Dolphins building.

If I'm Ballard the trade HAS to start with getting #11 and then I ask Miami's GM "what else you offering?"

The only trade Ballard should even be contemplating right now is getting Buffalo's 2 first round picks. Even at that, if Chubb is still sitting there, I draft him at number 6. The one guy I don't want the Colts drafting is Barkley that high. Barkley is no Edgerrin James.

[ZiaColt]

Originally Posted by Coltsalr

Laremy Tunsil (to move back to Guard where he excelled in 2016 as a rookie) would be an intriguing sweetener to offering us the #11 overall pick.

I get the sense Ballard is a guy who's generally more interested in draft picks than in someone else's players. I may be totally off base with that, but given how much he's talked about building through the draft, I think he'd prefer something like the trade I mentioned, or a similar one.

And I'd be surprised if he made any move before the actual draft. Wait and see if Chubb gets picked at #2, #4 or #5, and if he does, THEN maybe do a deal.

Unless there really is another "mystery player" Ballard really likes at #6 (Edmunds?)

[YDFL Commish]

Originally Posted by Spike

The only trade Ballard should even be contemplating right now is getting Buffalo's 2 first round picks. Even at that, if Chubb is still sitting there, I draft him at number 6. The one guy I don't want the Colts drafting is Barkley that high. Barkley is no Edgerrin James.

Maybe not the total package, no. Edge had i incredible pass blocking skills. But in every other way he has as much or more than Edge.