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Old 09-09-2019, 12:47 AM
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Just a few things to add:

1) STOP with the screens, especially on 2nd and long. When the Colts run them, there’s a high probability of zero or negative yardage which kills your drive. Only run them on 1st or 3rd and long.

2) Was it just me, or did Walker get benched in the 2nd half only to come back out for OT? He looked downright terrible on several plays.

3) Same goes for Kenny Moore. Make a tackle. Or better yet, make a play of any sort.

4) They got burned a ton in man today. If you’re going to play man, you better cover better than that.

5) The DL just missed Rivers on several occasions. Really frustrating since any one of those could’ve swayed the game.

Overall, there was a lot to like: Mack, run blocking, Brissett, TY, Funchess and Cain making contested grabs. The defense and Vinatieri just killed them today. They nearly overcame those factors against a really good team, so I’m encouraged that this is still a team that can win the AFC South. Big game next week against TENN.
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Just a few things to add:

1) STOP with the screens, especially on 2nd and long. When the Colts run them, there’s a high probability of zero or negative yardage which kills your drive. Only run them on 1st or 3rd and long.

2) Was it just me, or did Walker get benched in the 2nd half only to come back out for OT? He looked downright terrible on several plays.

3) Same goes for Kenny Moore. Make a tackle. Or better yet, make a play of any sort.

4) They got burned a ton in man today. If you’re going to play man, you better cover better than that.

5) The DL just missed Rivers on several occasions. Really frustrating since any one of those could’ve swayed the game.

Overall, there was a lot to like: Mack, run blocking, Brissett, TY, Funchess and Cain making contested grabs. The defense and Vinatieri just killed them today. They nearly overcame those factors against a really good team, so I’m encouraged that this is still a team that can win the AFC South. Big game next week against TENN.
I thought walker had some damn good plays early
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Old 09-09-2019, 07:25 AM
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8) fuck the pats


Could not agree more with this. Woke up with 20-0 score and switched to NCIS for Christ's sake.
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I thought walker had some damn good plays early
He was so up and down. There was a drive in the 3rd quarter where he made a really nice play knifing into the backfield and stopping Jackson for a loss of 1-2 yards. The very next play he over-pursued and left a huge running lane. Jackson picked up 24. It's harder to tell just with the telecast, but CBS showed an endzone view of the 2nd play and it was obvious Walker was way out of position.

I looked at the extended highlights again last night and it was really apparent how bad the interior DL and LBs were yesterday. The DL got zero penetration, which is their only chance with their size.
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I have very little worries about Brissett now. The most important thing is that he took care of the ball. Didn't do anything stupid. Then to be down to a damn good team by 15 points on the road in the fourth quarter (and the two minute drive in the first half) and he lead us to a tie. If he stays this steady our issues will not be at quarterback. This man can lead a TEAM to the promised land. This team is Brissett's, Luck has as much relevance as Manning does to this team (I mean that in a good positive way). Feeling about as good as I can after a loss.

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I have very little worries about Brissett now. The most important thing is that he took care of the ball. Didn't do anything stupid. Then to be down to a damn good team by 15 points on the road in the fourth quarter (and the two minute drive in the first half) and he lead us to a tie. If he stays this steady our issues will not be at quarterback. This man can lead a TEAM to the promised land. This team is Brissett's, Luck has as much relevance as Manning does to this team (I mean that in a good positive way). Feeling about as good as I can after a loss.
But he won't have 170 rushing yards to help him every week. Teams are going to start stacking the box starting with the Titans next Sunday. He will have to show he can stap up and hit guys consistently with one on one coverage and a guy blitzing.

It's kind of ridiculous we lost this game with that many rushing yards. You have to play smart mistake-free football against playoff teams.
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But he won't have 170 rushing yards to help him every week. Teams are going to start stacking the box starting with the Titans next Sunday. He will have to show he can stap up and hit guys consistently with one on one coverage and a guy blitzing.

It's kind of ridiculous we lost this game with that many rushing yards. You have to play smart mistake-free football against playoff teams.
+2 turnover differential corrected for the missed kicks, so an even score at the end of regulation was fair. The defense as a whole (particularly interior DL and LB) didn't play well enough to pull it out.

Not to harp on it, but the OT rules really irritate me. People will say "you need to get a stop," but it's systematically unfair to the team that loses the toss. You need 2 positive outcomes in order to win (stop + score), whereas the team that wins the toss only needs 1 positive outcome (TD) to win. It's the most ludicrous setup for extended play in all pro sports. Just think about it:

NBA: each team gets 5 minutes, equal chance at possession
MLB: each team gets 3 outs on an inning by inning basis
Soccer: equal 15 minutes extra periods, followed by 5 penalty shots
NHL: golden goal, but each team has equal chance at possession

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+2 turnover differential corrected for the missed kicks, so an even score at the end of regulation was fair. The defense as a whole (particularly interior DL and LB) didn't play well enough to pull it out.

Not to harp on it, but the OT rules really irritate me. People will say "you need to get a stop," but it's systematically unfair to the team that loses the toss. You need 2 positive outcomes in order to win (stop + score), whereas the team that wins the toss only needs 1 positive outcome (TD) to win. It's the most ludicrous setup for extended play in all pro sports. Just think about it:

NBA: each team gets 5 minutes, equal chance at possession
MLB: each team gets 3 outs on an inning by inning basis
Soccer: equal 15 minutes extra periods, followed by 5 penalty shots
NHL: golden goal, but each team has equal chance at possession

There is a very simple solution to this overtime issue that would solve it all pretty fairly. They should do what I understood was the rule in NFL Europe when it existed

Each team gets one possession of the ball.
If the score is still tied after each team gets one possession, then its sudden death, just like the old rules. First team to score wins.
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Old 09-09-2019, 12:53 PM
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+2 turnover differential corrected for the missed kicks, so an even score at the end of regulation was fair. The defense as a whole (particularly interior DL and LB) didn't play well enough to pull it out.

Not to harp on it, but the OT rules really irritate me. People will say "you need to get a stop," but it's systematically unfair to the team that loses the toss. You need 2 positive outcomes in order to win (stop + score), whereas the team that wins the toss only needs 1 positive outcome (TD) to win. It's the most ludicrous setup for extended play in all pro sports. Just think about it:

NBA: each team gets 5 minutes, equal chance at possession
MLB: each team gets 3 outs on an inning by inning basis
Soccer: equal 15 minutes extra periods, followed by 5 penalty shots
NHL: golden goal, but each team has equal chance at possession
Yeah, I've never liked it either. Plus I think defenses are at a disadvantage at the end of the game. Then they had a tie this week also, so the system doesn't even work all that well. They say it forces a team to be balanced, but it really just forces one team to be balanced, the team that loses the coin toss. But most teams are lopsided builds today, and if the coin flip favors the team that is lopsided then it is an unfair advantage.

The secondary play overall was not that good. Geathers looked pretty bad out there, Kenny Moore was getting burned. My biggest fear was this dline is not big enough and it showed yesterday. I hope this is not going to go on all season. Teams are going to go after the interior dline till they can show they can stop the run. Yeah yeah 'last season' someone will say, but this is a new season and teams have had an offseason to scheme.

Everytime we play the Chargers we seem to fall into the trap of letting them utilize their strengths. Until we learn to take the strengths of teams away we will be a good team not great. How many freaking screens have the Chargers run at us over the years? Seems like amillion and they always work.

Still despite all that we should have won if just one or two mistakes go our way. The offsides, the Ebron catch, just one of Vinnie's misses. Long season to go and already injuries are shaping the AFC.
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11) welcome to the nfl willis and rock

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Caught up w/ Rock Ya-Sin today, who opened up on his teaching moment from Week 1. On the TD he allowed to Allen, Rock let his eyes slide away from Allen's hips on the double-move, and to the QB. "I recovered, but I have to stay more disciplined," he said. "Can't happen again."
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