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Old 03-13-2018, 08:22 PM
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There's some hyperbole going on here with Nelson. His value is his consistency, but no one will ever convince me that an elite guard will have as much of an impact on any given game as an elite pass rusher or an elite QB. If Nelson was a LT, I could understand the argument for him, but he's not. He's a guard. Guards have value, but not Top 5 pick value. This is about building a championship team, and the Colts will not do that by picking a guard in the Top 5.

Think about all the Super Bowls you've ever watched. Did you ever think "(Insert Team)'s starting guard is going to be a key factor in this game"? Now, did you ever think "(Insert Team)'s top pass rusher is going to be a key factor in this game"? I'd be willing to bet the first thought has never crossed your mind, while the second is a near annual occurrence. That's why you don't take Nelson Top 5. Chubb is the only choice that makes sense for this team.

I think about it every time Luck gets hit or our RB gets stopped for a 3 yd loss
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All the AFC South teams are over spending to acquire talent. But are they getting better?
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Better than the colts
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If Luck is healthy, Texans with a healthy Watson are the only ones that concern me.
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Jacksonville won the off-season last year, and they came one win away from the Super Bowl, and they are off to a great start this year already...you need to spend money to acquire good talent, being wallflowers is not helping the Colts at all.
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There's some hyperbole going on here with Nelson. His value is his consistency, but no one will ever convince me that an elite guard will have as much of an impact on any given game as an elite pass rusher or an elite QB. If Nelson was a LT, I could understand the argument for him, but he's not. He's a guard. Guards have value, but not Top 5 pick value. This is about building a championship team, and the Colts will not do that by picking a guard in the Top 5.

Think about all the Super Bowls you've ever watched. Did you ever think "(Insert Team)'s starting guard is going to be a key factor in this game"? Now, did you ever think "(Insert Team)'s top pass rusher is going to be a key factor in this game"? I'd be willing to bet the first thought has never crossed your mind, while the second is a near annual occurrence. That's why you don't take Nelson Top 5. Chubb is the only choice that makes sense for this team.
You should know about Hyperbole as your full of it more often than not, or at least full of something that could be confused as hyperbole. Heck we all are ...

As for your Super Bowl question, when they talk about an offensive line it is often due to glaring holes, the good lines are seldom mentioned. Take last years Eagles seldom heard anything about them, because they did what they are supposed to do. Other teams like the Cowboys and Steelers have invested in their line. If we build a comparable line to protect Luck we are much better off than Luck standing on sidelines in a sling watching Chubb get a few sacks. Chubb isn't a Mathis or Freeney nor will he be in my opinion ....

However, the Colts will probably take Chubb as that is what all the talking heads think we should do.

I Personally hope we trade back with the Bills and take OT Mike McGlinchy at 12 and OG Will Hernandez at 21 ...
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If Luck is healthy, Texans with a healthy Watson are the only ones that concern me.
He can watch Chubb wearing a sling holding clipboard for Jacoby ...
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If Luck is healthy, Texans with a healthy Watson are the only ones that concern me.
Jags are a couple wins better than the Colts. Those lines are really strong.
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I think about it every time Luck gets hit or our RB gets stopped for a 3 yd loss
Name the last former top 15 pick to start a Super Bowl at OG. I'll wait.

Meanwhile: Brandon Graham, Vic Beasley, Von Miller, DeMarcus Ware, Terrell Suggs, Justin Smith, Jason Pierre-Paul, Dwight Freeney

I left a lot of guys off who weren't obvious pass rushers but who contributed greatly to their team's pass rush (Fletcher Cox, B.J. Raji, Haloti Ngata, Ty Warren, Richard Seymour).
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You should know about Hyperbole as your full of it more often than not, or at least full of something that could be confused as hyperbole. Heck we all are ...

As for your Super Bowl question, when they talk about an offensive line it is often due to glaring holes, the good lines are seldom mentioned. Take last years Eagles seldom heard anything about them, because they did what they are supposed to do. Other teams like the Cowboys and Steelers have invested in their line. If we build a comparable line to protect Luck we are much better off than Luck standing on sidelines in a sling watching Chubb get a few sacks. Chubb isn't a Mathis or Freeney nor will he be in my opinion ....

However, the Colts will probably take Chubb as that is what all the talking heads think we should do.

I Personally hope we trade back with the Bills and take OT Mike McGlinchy at 12 and OG Will Hernandez at 21 ...
Chubb is not Freeney or Mathis nor does he have to be. J.J. Watt isn't a speed rusher, but he sure as hell is effective as a pass rusher when healthy. Many gifted pass rushers got after the QB despite lacking elite speed, and at 4.65, I'd say Chubb has it for a DE. This defense needs a leader and a franchise player, and this team needs to invest in its defense in a way that it hasn't in a long time. I understand your concern about the OL, but the team has two former first round picks there that are quality players (one needs to be healthy more often) and the positions that need filled are ones you see championship teams fill with late round picks, UDFAs, and free agents in general. And since you're harping on this "Luck in a sling" thing, what does it matter if he's healthy of the other team is dropping 40 every week? By the way, that will get him injured pretty quickly, as well, obvious passing downs are the worst for QBs' health.
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Jags are a couple wins better than the Colts. Those lines are really strong.
Blake Bortles negates that.
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