Venturi assessment of Day 1

[1965southpaw]

Just listened to Rick Venturi's assessment of Day 1....I always enjoy and mostly agree with his analysis so fwiw here are my notes. Sorry for the quality of the writing.....no time to pretty it up. He strongly caveats this is just Day 1.....not enough data but just initial impressions

1.Assessment of what he saw from Luck: Physically he saw that his arm strength, explosiveness, and accuracy were all very good. He said his throwing motion was as it was before injury. Saw 3 plays to TY that would have resulted in big gains downfield (combo of Luck/TY executing and good play design by Frank). Mentally, he's focused and is seeing the field well. Already on day 1 he saw him being a force multiplier in the huddle. He had all the reasonable cautions of needing to wait and see what repeated days of practice and then games will do to his ability to sustain this level of work.......but he said he came away believing that Andrew is really ready to go.

2.Assessment of oline from day 1: Talent level (both from draft and free agents) vastly improved. We are now playing with 4 number 1's (in terms of talent) across the board. Right Tackle really his only concern. With only 1 weakness you can live with that. Pretty excited with the skill set/talent level and thinks that Frank's scheme will complement the talent level to multiply the improvement we will get from the talent alone.

3. Defense and perimeter offense are his biggest question marks. Not a great fan of the Tampa scheme but does think we will get more aggressiveness out of the 4-3. Thinks T. Basham will be the biggest beneficiary of this scheme change. Looking for him to make a big step up this year in a system that suits his talent more. The corners were off to a pretty good start and they will have to perform well in order to have any success with this unit.

4. On receiving core outside TY Hilton.......Doyle = reliable, Ebron has been an underachiever but he has talent and he liked what he saw from him yesterday....He is a match up problem but its a big wait and see on him. He liked that Frank had him lined up all over the field just on Day 1....bodes well for creative use of a potential play-maker. Grant, like Doyle, won't create his own opportunities, but he is reliable. The scheme has to get him open...he's not an explosive big play guy. Deion Cane is interesting to him....liked him in draft. He can fly...hasn't seen the inconsistent hands that was his rap in the draft. Looked quick coming out of break........Rodgers = big wait and see if he will stay healthy.

5. On running game = wait and see

6. Thoughts on TY not going to Stanford to work out with Andrew, only Chester Rodgers: Not what you would like (raises work ethic question) but we don't know all the details so reserve judgement.


I neglected to mention that he sees Frank's offensive scheme as state of the art progressive design. Across the board he believes we will see a massive improvement in coaching and talent development.

[sherck]

Originally Posted by 1965southpaw

2.Assessment of oline from day 1: Talent level (both from draft and free agents) vastly improved. We are now playing with 4 number 1's (in terms of talent) across the board. Right Tackle really his only concern. With only 1 weakness you can live with that. Pretty excited with the skill set/talent level and thinks that Frank's scheme will complement the talent level to multiply the improvement we will get from the talent alone.

If Howard is the weakest link, I will take that.

PFF scores for Howard last 6 years. Scores in the 60s are replacement level, scores in the 70s are NFL average, scores in the 80s are NFL good.

2012 = 77.4 (16 games started; 16 games played)
2013 = 74.9 (16 games started; 16 games played)
2014 = 53.1 (16 games started; 16 games played)
2015 = 82.6 (13 games started; 13 games played)
2016 = 66.9 (10 games started; 11 games played)
2017 = 71.6 (16 games started; 16 games played)

He is an average NFL starting OT whom has had some good years (2012, 2015), some bad years (2014) and some average years (2013, 2016, 2017).

In an intelligence scheme, with an intelligence QB, with quality line play next to him, I think he will be average which will be a hugh step up from what we have observed recently.

Walk Worthy,

[Butter]

Agreed, if your worst O Lineman is average, you have a decent line.

[Maniac]

Originally Posted by 1965southpaw

6. Thoughts on TY not going to Stanford to work out with Andrew, only Chester Rodgers: Not what you would like (raises work ethic question) but we don't know all the details so reserve judgement.

Why does he have to say it raises a work ethic question if he doesn't know the details? Maybe he had other plans already. Maybe he was out of the country or on vacation with his family.

[Oldcolt]

About the only thing you can scout in a day is how strong and accurate an arm is. To hear that he felt Luck's arm strength, explosiveness and accuracy were good is the best news I could have gotten out of the first day. I don't give a shit about the other stuff, fun to read but (as you said) way to early.

[Butter]

Originally Posted by JesusChrist

Why does he have to say it raises a work ethic question if he doesn't know the details? Maybe he had other plans already. Maybe he was out of the country or on vacation with his family.

I agree. It is awesome when players do extra work together in the offseason, but not doing so should not be an indication of "Lack of Work ethic" It is amazing how much criticism TY gets for having performed as well as he has over the years and while producing no drama.

[1965southpaw]

Originally Posted by Butter

I agree. It is awesome when players do extra work together in the offseason, but not doing so should not be an indication of "Lack of Work ethic" It is amazing how much criticism TY gets for having performed as well as he has over the years and while producing no drama.

I saw TY's interview with the NFL Network....Michael Irvin and the other host (forget his name)......He said all the right things and seemed genuinely happy to get back to work and to be connecting with Andrew again. He spoke about how much Reggie Wayne helped him in his transition and spoke of taking the same role in helping the new guys to be successful. He said, if they do well, I do well........He seems to be in a good place.

[indycolts2]

Originally Posted by JesusChrist

Why does he have to say it raises a work ethic question if he doesn't know the details? Maybe he had other plans already. Maybe he was out of the country or on vacation with his family.

Yeah that quote makes no sense since all off season TY has been getting rave reviews about how hard he is working.

[Racehorse]

Originally Posted by Butter

I agree. It is awesome when players do extra work together in the offseason, but not doing so should not be an indication of "Lack of Work ethic" It is amazing how much criticism TY gets for having performed as well as he has over the years and while producing no drama.

If not for the fact that most journalists claim to not be racist, I would say they are saying that because of a racial stereotype that is pervasive here.

[FatDT]

Originally Posted by Racehorse

If not for the fact that most journalists claim to not be racist, I would say they are saying that because of a racial stereotype that is pervasive here.

I do think people look for any reason to try to push the diva label on Hilton.