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Old 06-19-2019, 01:41 PM
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Polian was in charge, and took the blame.
Sure, he was still getting paid to run the team and the buck stopped with him, but the nepotism is what undid them. Those last drafts were run by his son and they were just not hitting on picks anymore. Of course, a department isn't just one guy when making picks. However, there was a difference in their choices from 2007 on. There were some really bad picks in there. When you use just one method to build your team, you can't have a decline in that area.

Manning propped the team up on his shoulders at the end and it was exposed when he got hurt. People think they sucked for Luck in 2012, not a chance. That team had so little talent. They were really outmatched in games.
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Old 06-19-2019, 01:42 PM
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Let us not forget who gradually got more control within the Colts organization after the 2006 Championship.

I believe that had more to do with the poor drafting than any other factor.
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Seems unnecessarily early, but good to have him locked up. Will be interesting to see what the exact contract details are.

Here are a few more contract details beyond the initial terms reported through tweets.

Sportrac indicates the terms are a 4 year extension worth $33.3MM ($9.0MM guaranteed - all in year 2019).

His original contract for 2019 was $0.645MM - that base salary was revised and bumped up to an even $1.0MM. He was also given a $8.0MM roster bonus in 2019.

Base salaries are:

2019 - $1.0MM
2020 - $5.75MM
2021 - $5.4MM
2022 - $5.5MM
2023 - $6.795MM

There is also a weekly bonus for being Active each week - $15,625 per game in years 2020 -2022 and $46,875 per game in 2023.

Last edited by AlwaysSunnyinIndy; 07-05-2019 at 07:25 PM. Reason: Clarified that he was signed through 2019 - but new contract extension reworked 2019 salary
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Old 07-04-2019, 07:45 PM
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Holy shit that is a fucking sweet contract for the Colts, there is no way short of acting like a Chefs star player that Moore is not on the team in '19 and after that nothing lost.
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Old 07-05-2019, 04:32 AM
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It's the sort of contract that indicates that you want the guy for the entirety of the deal, not just the first couple of seasons. I am sure if he outplays his contract value then the contract will be renegotiated in a few years.

I have always hated the short term contracts that are made to look like a 5 year deal just so that the agent looks good. If you are truly trying to sign a cornerstone player sign him to a deal that you can commit to long term such as this one. I really like the way that Ballard has operated with the contracts that he has handed out throughout his reign.

I also think that if you sign an undrafted street free agent to a 2 year deal (which often happens) then he should be paid for the full two years. If you decide to cut him then so be it...but you pay out his full contract, if that means you actually only give him a 3 month contract with no security just because he is camp fodder then do that, and if he makes the team sign him to a new contract at that point.
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