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Blaming personnel decisions made by Grigson on Pagano isn't productive. Guy was a productive player here, but was inexplicably cut, just like Freeman was inexplicably allowed to walk. Hughes never got a shot under Pagano because he was behind Freeney and Mathis in 2012 and got traded in 2013. Mario Addison was even deeper on that depth chart.
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It is very convenient that such high draft picks were so easily dismissed by the great dam as complete trash.
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Simple answer: Grigson sucked at drafting, and so did/do the Browns. Richardson wasn't worth trading a 1 for, and Werner's ceiling was never elite, and that was what I said at the time in each case. High draft pick + bad GM = No talent.
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I mean, I could argue players on your list like Mewhort and Allen actually REGRESSED under Pagano. And there are a ton of notable absences, including D'Joun Smith & TJ Green, who Pagano personally advocated for. |
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To me when develop is used that means the coach takes someone and makes them better, or help reach their potential that they would have done otherwise.
The one that really comes to mind in terms of pagano "developing" would be vontae. I didnt really follow his career in miami, but wasnt he kind of a mess there? He came here, got his shit together and became a really good CB. Pags was supposed to be a good DB coach so I could see that. Could make a case for McGill and Freeman... other than that? (I am not including Doyle as I doubt pagano had any influence in his success) |
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I left Smith off because, again, injuries were the biggest factor. It's not really possible to develop an injured player. As for Green, he's a second year player, and he was always going to be a project. Early returns don't look promising, but it's too early to completely write him off. |
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Two words on player development where it is obvious Pags is inept: Jerry Hughes
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