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what is to like about Trump?

he is as morally bankrupt as any person i have ever seen. he has not a single good quality about him.
Never said there was much to like. In fact, I sort of claimed the opposite. I just don't hate the guy like Jaff does.
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Never said there was much to like. In fact, I sort of claimed the opposite. I just don't hate the guy like Jaff does.
He is a traitor. Thats why.
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He is a traitor. Thats why.
He is an egotistical crybaby blowhard, but to call him a traitor is hyperbole.
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It looks like Newsom is trying to set himself up, possibly to run against DeSantis at some point in the future.

There’s also Buttigieg but he is still on the young side and it would be interesting to see how general america handles the gay aspect.
Newsome is way to far left to ever be a serious contender outside the west coast. I'm ok with Pete being gay if his policies were better I don't think his sexual preference would hurt him, his project policies will (From 2020 primaries)
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I agree about Trump. And the same can be argued about the abortion issue. The left has us right where they want us on this, and will play it into a lot of midterm victories if some states go too far on abortion laws. We need common sense laws that allow for some exceptions, but a lot of states have gone full ban already.
I think some stronghold republican states are making a huge mistake by not adjusting their abortion laws to fit actual real life circumstances. If they do that and the sure to come backlash for the economical catastrophe that is the Biden administration the conservative candidates will crush the liberals come November. Hell, even democrats are turning on the "Woke" liberal crowds. November will be interesting for sure.
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Newsome is way to far left to ever be a serious contender outside the west coast. I'm ok with Pete being gay if his policies were better I don't think his sexual preference would hurt him, his project policies will (From 2020 primaries)

Agree on newsom. There are a lot of us Californians that dont even like him.

Not so sure regarding pete. I think there are still too many people that would vote against him because he is gay.
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Agree on newsom. There are a lot of us Californians that dont even like him.

Not so sure regarding pete. I think there are still too many people that would vote against him because he is gay.
I would think we have come further as a country. If Pete would move closer to center he would be a contender against Desantis. Not sure he could beat him. I'm not sure anyone could at this point. He doesn't carry excessive baggage, he watched and learned what Trump did wrong. Mid terms will tell a lot about how the voters are leaning.
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I like Mayor Pete. He cant get elected President. He wouldnt carry Indiana.

I really like John Thune. He would carry all the states that have 4 electoral votes, but he wont carry texas or florida
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He is an egotistical crybaby blowhard, but to call him a traitor is hyperbole.
He tried conspired to steal the election. To misrepresent the will of the people. He was in involved in a conspiracy to alter the results of a federal election. That is a federal crime. He conned thousands of people to chant stop the steal, and he was committing the crime

He is a traitor, he violated his oath, to preserve, protect, and defend the constitution. He threatened Georgia election officials, to find 7000 votes. Its on the record, its was recorded. It is a crime to tamper with a federal election.
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He tried conspired to steal the election. To misrepresent the will of the people. He was in involved in a conspiracy to alter the results of a federal election. That is a federal crime. He conned thousands of people to chant stop the steal, and he was committing the crime

He is a traitor, he violated his oath, to preserve, protect, and defend the constitution. He threatened Georgia election officials, to find 7000 votes. Its on the record, its was recorded. It is a crime to tamper with a federal election.
Like the millions of votes the democrats found after they stopped counting?
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