Official 2018 NFL Draft Discussion Thread

[rm1369]

Originally Posted by Puck

You still dont understand that the ONE thing. THE MOST IMPORTANT thing that will make the biggest impact is Luck being on the field and not getting sacked hit and injured yr after yr,

We can win without Chubb or the best safety duo in the NFL or the best MLB... we aren't winning without Luck

My only issue with this is that if Ballard agrees with that (and he should) then why the hell would you not spend any of the huge amounts of cap space they had available to protect Luck? It’s either vitally important or it’s not. Up till this point, thru 2 free agent periods and 1 draft, Ballard has said its not that important. Using a #6 pick on a guard just compounds the stupidity.

[VeveJones007]

Originally Posted by Puck

I guess you didnt listen to Leaf... HE COMPARED him to himself

I heard it last week and it was bullshit last week, too. Leaf comparing himself to Mayfield is just as wrong as you comparing them.

Let's try this another way. Please list the similarities and the differences. Show your work.

[Dam8610]

Honestly the QB Mayfield compares best to for me is Russell Wilson. I'd want to watch a little more film on him before definitively making that comparison, but both are short for the position, both use their legs and speed to extend plays, and both had/have character questions coming out.

[VeveJones007]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

Honestly the QB Mayfield compares best to for me is Russell Wilson. I'd want to watch a little more film on him before definitively making that comparison, but both are short for the position, both use their legs and speed to extend plays, and both had/have character questions coming out.

Comp I heard recently that I really liked was Jeff Garcia, but Wilson is another good one. Not sure Mayfield has quite the same top-end arm strength as Wilson, which is why I prefer Garcia.

[njcoltfan]

Originally Posted by ZiaColt

that's sorta where I am too; if Chubb's gone I could live with Nelson (or maybe Smith or Edmunds, for that matter) at 6. Even Barkley, if he somehow dropped that far, although I fear he might struggle behind the Colts OL.

I still feel some may be over-valuing the 6th position (and some of the QBs) in this draft. I expect the most Ballard might be able to get for it would be something like what I mentioned earlier--#12, #53 or #56, and maybe #65.

Not that those picks would make it a "bad" trade for Indy--I'd definitely give it consideration if I were Ballard. I think a lot of scouts feel that this year's 2nd round compares more favorably to previous 2nd rounds than this year's 1st round compares to previous 1st rounds.

So there should still be quality OLs, RBs and CBs in Round Two, maybe even Round Three. Which is why I wouldn't be upset if Ballard did make a trade like the one above with Buffalo--still get a core player at #12, and overall have 7 of the first 67 picks.

I would’nt start a conversation with the Bills if #12 AND #22 are not in play!!!

[ukcolt]

An offensive line with 2 first round picks and 1 second rounder...yeah, that is fine, but the 2nd rounder has had big issues staying healthy, and one of the 1st rounders has also struggled a little with health, the other 2 spots have been in a constant state of flux for the last 3 or 4 years and something needs to be done to address it.

Dam you say you have more faith in the new coaches, Philbin was renowned as being a really good offensive line coach in his prior stints. I am not so convinced that a new OL coach is suddenly going to make them a huge amount better. They may improve from one year to another due to the additional year of experience, but i don't want to bet everything that that is going to happen, and would want to put some serious draft capital into the OL this year.

[ukcolt]

The defense needs an infusion of talent as well not denying that, but can't just go all defense. The DL generally isn't too bad, and the safety position looks to be in reasonably stable condition. We do need CB depth/starter and several LB's though, but the OL is at least on a par with the CB position in terms of need.

[VeveJones007]

@HolderStephen
Listening to Ryan Kelly, there's definitely going to be a lot of zone blocking in the Colts' new offensive scheme.

This factors in to possible OL fits in the draft.

A guy like Brian O'Neill from Pitt could be a good OT option late 2/3.

[VeveJones007]

Originally Posted by njcoltfan

I would’nt start a conversation with the Bills if #12 AND #22 are not in play!!!

I agree with this, but Ballard might not. As an example, there are going to be a lot of OL options in rounds 2-3, so he might prefer getting an extra 1-2 players.

Though, you could always look to trade back from #22 if you don't like the board at that point. #22 could be a hot commodity for teams trying to move in front of the Patriots for one of the QBs.

[Maniac]

Originally Posted by VeveJones007

This factors in to possible OL fits in the draft.

This is a list from sportsline for zone blocking rankings for interior OL:

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/...-interior-ols/

Zone Scheme

1. Daniels
2. Wynn
3. Price
4. Nelson
5. Ragnow
6. Hernandez

and OT's :

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/...now-about-ots/

Zone Scheme

1. Crosby
2. Miller
3. Williams
4. McGlinchey
5. Okorafor
6. Brown