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Old 08-01-2018, 07:21 PM
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Disappointing to hear but hopefully the team can absorb the loss. Mewhort was a good player for us. I hope he gets his knees fixed and has a happy, normal life.
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This guy is probably looking at 2 knee replacements before he's out of his 40's.

It wasn't effort, just lousy luck
If he loses weight and slims down that should ease the pressure on his knees substantially. Knees are not meant to carry that much weight indefinitely.

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It sucks about Mewhort; I liked him alot before injury.

However, it is also a great cautionary tale.

A lot of sports writers downgraded our draft because we drafted 2 OGs in the first two rounds and their reasoning was "but they already have Mewhort...."

These are guys "in the know" but yet they did not have anywhere near the full info on him. Ballard did.

Need to take almost anything anyone says that is not in the thick of things with a gain (or bucket) of salt because it is all just their guesses as well.

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With Mewhort gone, theres no one left on the team from the 2013 and 2014 drafts according to PFT !!
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With Mewhort gone, theres no one left on the team from the 2013 and 2014 drafts according to PFT !!
2013 Draft:
1 24 Björn Werner DE Florida State
3 86 Hugh Thornton OG Illinois
4 121 Khaled Holmes C USC
5 139 Montori Hughes DT Tennessee-Martin Pick from CLE
6 192 John Boyett S Oregon
7 230 Kerwynn Williams RB Utah State
7 254 Justice Cunningham TE South Carolina

2014 Draft:
2 59 Jack Mewhort OT Ohio St
3 90 Donte Moncrief WR Ole Miss
5 166 Jonathan Newsome DE Ball St
6 203 Andrew Jackson LB Western Kentucky
7 232 Ulrick John DT Georgia St Pick from BAL
** 1st round pick traded away for Trent Richardson

It would appear that is correct; Mewhort and Moncrief were our remaining members of those two draft classes.

To continue:

2012 Draft:
1 1 Andrew Luck * QB Stanford
2 34 Coby Fleener TE Stanford
3 64 Dwayne Allen TE Clemson
3 92 T. Y. Hilton * WR Florida International Pick from SF[a]
5 136 Josh Chapman NT Alabama
5 170 Vick Ballard RB Mississippi State Compensatory[c]
6 206 LaVon Brazill WR Ohio Compensatory[b][c]
6 208 Justin Anderson G Georgia
7 214 Tim Fugger DE Vanderbilt Pick from PHI[b]
7 253[d] Chandler Harnish QB NIU Compensatory[c]

2015 Draft:
1 29 Phillip Dorsett Wide receiver Miami
3 65 D'Joun Smith Cornerback Florida Atlantic
93 Henry Anderson Defensive end Stanford
4 109 Clayton Geathers Safety Central Florida
5 151 David Parry Nose tackle Stanford
6 205 Josh Robinson Running back Mississippi State
207 Amarlo Herrera Inside linebacker Georgia
7* 255 Denzelle Good[2] Tackle Mars Hill

In summary:

2012: Andrew Luck, T.Y. Hilton
2013: None
2014: None
2015: Clayton Geathers, Denzelle Good

That's it. From 4 draft classes with players who would be in their 4th - 7th years in the league, we still have 4 guys on the roster and only two of them are full up starters who have contributed greatly (Geathers has been too injured for me to make that statement about him).

Now, Grigson had a pretty darn good 2016 draft which produced some pretty good players for the team but it was not enough to save him from disasterous 2013 and 2014 drafts.

1 18 Ryan Kelly Center Alabama
2 57 T. J. Green Free safety Clemson
3 82 Le'Raven Clark Offensive tackle Texas Tech
4 116 Hassan Ridgeway Nose tackle Texas
4 125 Antonio Morrison Inside linebacker Florida
5 155 Joe Haeg Offensive tackle North Dakota State
7 239 Trevor Bates Outside linebacker Maine
7 248 Austin Blythe Center Iowa

Kelly, Ridgeway, Haeg are all good players whom had made impacts and Green, Clark and Ridgeway have talent and the opportunity to show a new coaching staff that they deserve to be there. They may not make it but they are getting a fair shake.

Anyway, yeah, Grigson's 2013 and 2014 draft classes were terrible.

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2013 Draft:
1 24 Björn Werner DE Florida State
3 86 Hugh Thornton OG Illinois
4 121 Khaled Holmes C USC
5 139 Montori Hughes DT Tennessee-Martin Pick from CLE
6 192 John Boyett S Oregon
7 230 Kerwynn Williams RB Utah State
7 254 Justice Cunningham TE South Carolina

2014 Draft:
2 59 Jack Mewhort OT Ohio St
3 90 Donte Moncrief WR Ole Miss
5 166 Jonathan Newsome DE Ball St
6 203 Andrew Jackson LB Western Kentucky
7 232 Ulrick John DT Georgia St Pick from BAL
** 1st round pick traded away for Trent Richardson

It would appear that is correct; Mewhort and Moncrief were our remaining members of those two draft classes.

To continue:

2012 Draft:
1 1 Andrew Luck * QB Stanford
2 34 Coby Fleener TE Stanford
3 64 Dwayne Allen TE Clemson
3 92 T. Y. Hilton * WR Florida International Pick from SF[a]
5 136 Josh Chapman NT Alabama
5 170 Vick Ballard RB Mississippi State Compensatory[c]
6 206 LaVon Brazill WR Ohio Compensatory[b][c]
6 208 Justin Anderson G Georgia
7 214 Tim Fugger DE Vanderbilt Pick from PHI[b]
7 253[d] Chandler Harnish QB NIU Compensatory[c]

2015 Draft:
1 29 Phillip Dorsett Wide receiver Miami
3 65 D'Joun Smith Cornerback Florida Atlantic
93 Henry Anderson Defensive end Stanford
4 109 Clayton Geathers Safety Central Florida
5 151 David Parry Nose tackle Stanford
6 205 Josh Robinson Running back Mississippi State
207 Amarlo Herrera Inside linebacker Georgia
7* 255 Denzelle Good[2] Tackle Mars Hill

In summary:

2012: Andrew Luck, T.Y. Hilton
2013: None
2014: None
2015: Clayton Geathers, Denzelle Good

That's it. From 4 draft classes with players who would be in their 4th - 7th years in the league, we still have 4 guys on the roster and only two of them are full up starters who have contributed greatly (Geathers has been too injured for me to make that statement about him).

Now, Grigson had a pretty darn good 2016 draft which produced some pretty good players for the team but it was not enough to save him from disasterous 2013 and 2014 drafts.

1 18 Ryan Kelly Center Alabama
2 57 T. J. Green Free safety Clemson
3 82 Le'Raven Clark Offensive tackle Texas Tech
4 116 Hassan Ridgeway Nose tackle Texas
4 125 Antonio Morrison Inside linebacker Florida
5 155 Joe Haeg Offensive tackle North Dakota State
7 239 Trevor Bates Outside linebacker Maine
7 248 Austin Blythe Center Iowa

Kelly, Ridgeway, Haeg are all good players whom had made impacts and Green, Clark and Ridgeway have talent and the opportunity to show a new coaching staff that they deserve to be there. They may not make it but they are getting a fair shake.

Anyway, yeah, Grigson's 2013 and 2014 draft classes were terrible.

Walk Worthy,

Some might say that those draft classes were bad altogether. But we were a bad team and they couldn’t make the roster. Somehow Grigson has that good first year then went downhill fast. Didn’t we have what’s his name who is the chargers GM helping him in that first one? Chargers are a playoff favorite if they can stay healthy.

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Some might say that those draft classes were bad altogether. But we were a bad team and they couldn’t make the roster. Somehow Grigson has that good first year then went downhill fas. Didn’t we have what’s his name who is the chargers GM helping him in that first one? Chargers are a playofffavorite if they can stay healthy.
Yes, Telesco was in Indy for Grigson's first draft, and he would've been a much better hire than Grigson.
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Old 08-03-2018, 09:01 AM
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Some might say that those draft classes were bad altogether. But we were a bad team and they couldn’t make the roster. Somehow Grigson has that good first year then went downhill fast. Didn’t we have what’s his name who is the chargers GM helping him in that first one? Chargers are a playoff favorite if they can stay healthy.
The first draft hasn't turned out to be that great either. I'd say the only legitimately great pick was Hilton. Luck was a no-brainer AND that decision wasn't up to Grigson anyway. Fleener and the rest of that draft class are out of the league, Allen can barely get playing time.
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