Quarterback prospect accuracy

[apballin]

Originally Posted by omahacolt

a qb doesn't have to run to be successful. that said, it has always been the case that a qb that could get a couple first downs a game with his feet were always valuable.

just because there seems to be more athletic qb's coming out of college doesn't equate to "qb's are rb's now"


nobody wants their qb's taking a lot of hits

QBs are gonna take hits it’s football, sliding is always an option

[omahacolt]

Originally Posted by apballin

QBs are gonna take hits it’s football, sliding is always an option

well thats not the point

as you well know. qb's aren't rb's now.

[apballin]

Originally Posted by omahacolt

well thats not the point

as you well know. qb's aren't rb's now.

Right QBs have to be athletes now, the pocket passer days are over

QB has to be able to create yards with his legs

The days of handing off to a RB 30 times and hoping to win are dead

The more deadly a QBs legs are the more respect they instantly command from a defense

[omahacolt]

Originally Posted by apballin

Right QBs have to be athletes now, the pocket passer days are over

QB has to be able to create yards with his legs

The days of handing off to a RB 30 times and hoping to win are dead

The more deadly a QBs legs are the more respect they instantly command from a defense

i don't believe this to be true at all.

a pocket passer can win for sure. good pocket presence is still all you need. a bonus is qb athleticism and really opens up the offense.

[ukcolt]

Mobility in the pocket is essential, being able to extend a play by that extra second, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Matt Ryan, have been some of the best of the best, all of whom in the recent years of the NFL, none of them were ever a threat to take off and win with their legs.

[ukcolt]

I will add Philip Rivers to that list as well.

[apballin]

Originally Posted by omahacolt

i don't believe this to be true at all.

a pocket passer can win for sure. good pocket presence is still all you need. a bonus is qb athleticism and really opens up the offense.

No traditional pocket passers were even in the playoffs last year. 3-5 seconds isn’t enough time for guys to get open in the playoffs a lot of times

Pocket presence requires an elite Oline which very few teams have outside of Philly and they still utilized a running QB

[apballin]

Originally Posted by ukcolt

Mobility in the pocket is essential, being able to extend a play by that extra second, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Matt Ryan, have been some of the best of the best, all of whom in the recent years of the NFL, none of them were ever a threat to take off and win with their legs.

Again the game has changed since any of these guys were successful… the fact you added Matt Ryan makes me sick

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by apballin

Right QBs have to be athletes now, the pocket passer days are over

QB has to be able to create yards with his legs

The days of handing off to a RB 30 times and hoping to win are dead

The more deadly a QBs legs are the more respect they instantly command from a defense

Young and Stroud are basically pocket passers. Stroud can run, but he really prefers not to.

That said, running does hurt a defense. With so many cover 2 looks now all over the league. A running QB forces defenses to play single high bc they have to spy the QB. That then opens up those passing lanes for deep throws. Something Steichen exploited a lot with Hurts last year.

[ChaosTheory]

How narrow is our definition of "pocket passer"? If Joe Burrow doesn't fit, then it's not the definition I'm using.

Also, just because a guy can get a first down with his legs if things open up doesn't mean he's now a "running QB." Luck was a pocket passer.