Where do we stand at midseason?

[Kray007]

Listening to Kevin Bowen, this morning, he, once again, pronounced that the Colts are in the midst of a rebuilding effort. I'm not sure how he defines rebuilding, but I thought that looking at the state of the roster at the midpoint of the season might be worthwhile.

QB) Even though he only played parts of 4 games, I'm pretty much convinced that, in Anthony Richardson, the Colts have found their franchise Quarterback of the future. Every time he takes the snap from Center, you expect magic to happen.

RB). Simply put, there isn't a better RB in the National Football League than Jonathan Taylor. Given the prospect that Zack Moss will depart for greener pastures, the Colts will probably find themselves in a position of shopping for a running mate for him come next year’s draft.

WR). In Pittman and Downs, the Colts have two quality pieces at Wide Receiver, The third WR, Pierce remains something of a mystery largely because he has a Quarterback who A...isn't able to buy time enough for vertical passing routes to develop and B)...doesn't have the arm talent to task a Defense. The bottom line is that the team has no one who can stretch a Defense, get open deep, and make opposing Defensive Coordinators lose sleep, searching for ways to stop him. It's a major need, and one you'd hope to see Ballard address before the end of the draft.

TE). Granson, Ogletree, Mallory, and Woods are all intriguing players, but somewhere down the line, one of them needs to step up and prove that he can be more than a complementary piece of the puzzle. Finding the next Travis Kelce or Rob Gronkowski might not be at the top of Ballard's to do list; but, if no one on the current roster shows signs of breaking out, it has to be a priority.

OL). In Raimann and Braden Smith, the Colts have a pair of solid bookend Tackles. If you're into analytics, Ryan Kelly is the best Center in the game. Q is an elite Guard...when healthy, and Will Fries is settling very nicely intp the RG slot.

DL). While I'm not sure that Buckner and Stewart are the absolute best DT combo in the league, I am pretty sure that there are few better. At DE, Paye, Odeyingbo, and Ebukam would each be a nice piece if they were lined up at the other end of a line anchored by Nick Bosa or Micah Parsons. All three of those guys are work hard, plug away types who are never going to remind you of a Dwight Freeney or Robert Mathis. As far as I'm concerned, when Draft Day 2024 opens, there is no higher priority than a quick twitch, high intensity DE like Jared Verse of FSU.

LB). The trio of Leonard, Franklin, and Speed aren't going to embarrass you, and none of them can be described as a weak link. Zaire Franklin is a prolific defender when healthy. Ej Speed can be dynamic, but you wonder if his pass rushing skills aren't wasted in Gus Bradley's scheme. And, for whatever reason...recovery from injury or a change of scheme...Shaq Leonard isn't the same player who came into the league. I can't be sure of the reason, buy maybe he should think about going back to being Darius.

DB). Going into this season, Ballard was determined to throw a group of young Corners into the fire and see how they held up. On some level, it was a solid plan. Unfortunately, suspensions and injury have left Kenny Moore adrift on a sea of mediocrity. The good news is that Ballard got good results from Dalis Flowers, Kenny Moore, and Juju Brents. Taken together, they should provide a good foundation to build on. At Safety, Blackmon is solid.

[njcoltfan]

Originally Posted by Kray007

Listening to Kevin Bowen, this morning, he, once again, pronounced that the Colts are in the midst of a rebuilding effort. I'm not sure how he defines rebuilding, but I thought that looking at the state of the roster at the midpoint of the season might be worthwhile.

QB) Even though he only played parts of 4 games, I'm pretty much convinced that, in Anthony Richardson, the Colts have found their franchise Quarterback of the future. Every time he takes the snap from Center, you expect magic to happen.

RB). Simply put, there isn't a better RB in the National Football League than Jonathan Taylor. Given the prospect that Zack Moss will depart for greener pastures, the Colts will probably find themselves in a position of shopping for a running mate for him come next year’s draft.

WR). In Pittman and Downs, the Colts have two quality pieces at Wide Receiver, The third WR, Pierce remains something of a mystery largely because he has a Quarterback who A...isn't able to buy time enough for vertical passing routes to develop and B)...doesn't have the arm talent to task a Defense. The bottom line is that the team has no one who can stretch a Defense, get open deep, and make opposing Defensive Coordinators lose sleep, searching for ways to stop him. It's a major need, and one you'd hope to see Ballard address before the end of the draft.

TE). Granson, Ogletree, Mallory, and Woods are all intriguing players, but somewhere down the line, one of them needs to step up and prove that he can be more than a complementary piece of the puzzle. Finding the next Travis Kelce or Rob Gronkowski might not be at the top of Ballard's to do list; but, if no one on the current roster shows signs of breaking out, it has to be a priority.

OL). In Raimann and Braden Smith, the Colts have a pair of solid bookend Tackles. If you're into analytics, Ryan Kelly is the best Center in the game. Q is an elite Guard...when healthy, and Will Fries is settling very nicely intp the RG slot.

DL). While I'm not sure that Buckner and Stewart are the absolute best DT combo in the league, I am pretty sure that there are few better. At DE, Paye, Odeyingbo, and Ebukam would each be a nice piece if they were lined up at the other end of a line anchored by Nick Bosa or Micah Parsons. All three of those guys are work hard, plug away types who are never going to remind you of a Dwight Freeney or Robert Mathis. As far as I'm concerned, when Draft Day 2024 opens, there is no higher priority than a quick twitch, high intensity DE like Jared Verse of FSU.

LB). The trio of Leonard, Franklin, and Speed aren't going to embarrass you, and none of them can be described as a weak link. Zaire Franklin is a prolific defender when healthy. Ej Speed can be dynamic, but you wonder if his pass rushing skills aren't wasted in Gus Bradley's scheme. And, for whatever reason...recovery from injury or a change of scheme...Shaq Leonard isn't the same player who came into the league. I can't be sure of the reason, buy maybe he should think about going back to being Darius.

DB). Going into this season, Ballard was determined to throw a group of young Corners into the fire and see how they held up. On some level, it was a solid plan. Unfortunately, suspensions and injury have left Kenny Moore adrift on a sea of mediocrity. The good news is that Ballard got good results from Dalis Flowers, Kenny Moore, and Juju Brents. Taken together, they should provide a good foundation to build on. At Safety, Blackmon is solid.

So what your almost saying is, we are in rebuilding year 7.

[Kray007]

Originally Posted by njcoltfan

So what your almost saying is, we are in rebuilding year 7.

When I think of rebuilding teams, I think of tearing the roster down to the beams and foundation and starting over from scratch. that’s not the Colts. I think that, with a healthy Richardson, this team would have made the playoffs. I think that, with 2 or 3 more players, they’re a legit championship contender.

[Racehorse]

Originally Posted by Kray007

When I think of rebuilding teams, I think of tearing the roster down to the beams and foundation and starting over from scratch. that’s not the Colts. I think that, with a healthy Richardson, this team would have made the playoffs. I think that, with 2 or 3 more players, they’re a legit championship contender.

The biggest issues are pass rush and CB. I know people want MHJ or some other freak WR, but the three we have would work with AR, but the defense has to be able to get off the field. They started the season off looking like they would be able to, but the CB room has been decimated, and Grover went and drank from the stupid fountain. I am hopeful that they return to form when they are all back on the field together, and we have a solid group to build on in the draft. i am thinking we get the BPA on defense, unless teams do something dumb like passing on MHJ. Like was said above, we need a stud pass rusher added, or a shutdown corner to add to the mix with out first pick. Depth with BPA the rest of the draft. The future looks brighter today than any time since the Rivers year.

[bigalbert]

Originally Posted by Racehorse

The biggest issues are pass rush and CB. I know people want MHJ or some other freak WR, but the three we have would work with AR, but the defense has to be able to get off the field. They started the season off looking like they would be able to, but the CB room has been decimated, and Grover went and drank from the stupid fountain. I am hopeful that they return to form when they are all back on the field together, and we have a solid group to build on in the draft. i am thinking we get the BPA on defense, unless teams do something dumb like passing on MHJ. Like was said above, we need a stud pass rusher added, or a shutdown corner to add to the mix with out first pick. Depth with BPA the rest of the draft. The future looks brighter today than any time since the Rivers year.

I agree 100%. Great teams can rush the passer. Which in turn makes your secondary not as susceptible. Fix the trenches and we’re a legit contender.


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[omahacolt]

Originally Posted by Racehorse

The biggest issues are pass rush and CB. I know people want MHJ or some other freak WR, but the three we have would work with AR, but the defense has to be able to get off the field. They started the season off looking like they would be able to, but the CB room has been decimated, and Grover went and drank from the stupid fountain. I am hopeful that they return to form when they are all back on the field together, and we have a solid group to build on in the draft. i am thinking we get the BPA on defense, unless teams do something dumb like passing on MHJ. Like was said above, we need a stud pass rusher added, or a shutdown corner to add to the mix with out first pick. Depth with BPA the rest of the draft. The future looks brighter today than any time since the Rivers year.

right on

defense needs some fucking juice to it. we have buckner and that is it. grover is a really good nt. depth on the dline is bad. we need a dynamic de to get the pass rush going. paye and ebukam are good pieces but not great. need a couple more corners. Moore is not under contract after this year i believe. our safeties are just guys.

we clearly need a dude that is elite at wr. and i would say fuck the defense to get that guy in rd 1 if he is there. making sure AR has the tools to be great should be top priority.

outside of an elite wr, this draft can be all defense imo. late round interior line help is always a good idea but other than that, this defense needs a lot of attention.

[HoosierinFL]

The list reads like a wishlist. Sure its great to have a franchise QB and the best RB in the league, and a solid o-line, but now we also want a star deep threat receiver and the next Kelce at TE and the next Freeney at DE?

It's really just not realistic to expect a HoF level player in each sub group.

The offense is largely fine, though of course continuing to add bodies to the RB and WR group will be a need, but it likely won't be a high investment type need unless we end up in a position to get Marv Jr (most likely we won't).

The defense needs the investment.

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by Racehorse

The biggest issues are pass rush and CB. I know people want MHJ or some other freak WR, but the three we have would work with AR, but the defense has to be able to get off the field. They started the season off looking like they would be able to, but the CB room has been decimated, and Grover went and drank from the stupid fountain. I am hopeful that they return to form when they are all back on the field together, and we have a solid group to build on in the draft. i am thinking we get the BPA on defense, unless teams do something dumb like passing on MHJ. Like was said above, we need a stud pass rusher added, or a shutdown corner to add to the mix with out first pick. Depth with BPA the rest of the draft. The future looks brighter today than any time since the Rivers year.

Its starting to shape up that the strength of this class is WR, CB and DE. Although DE and CB do not have high end guys at the top like usual. I mean guys that have to go in the top five. Why a lot of team are trading for assets. Either to try and move for for a QB or stock up at those positions. Especially CB which has been a little dry the past five years except for last year.

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by njcoltfan

So what your almost saying is, we are in rebuilding year 7.

Year 7 of Ballard, year one of Richardson. Funny how Bowen just figured this out. People been saying it all off season.

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by Kray007

DB). Going into this season, Ballard was determined to throw a group of young Corners into the fire and see how they held up. On some level, it was a solid plan. Unfortunately, suspensions and injury have left Kenny Moore adrift on a sea of mediocrity. The good news is that Ballard got good results from Dalis Flowers, Kenny Moore, and Juju Brents. Taken together, they should provide a good foundation to build on. At Safety, Blackmon is solid.

I think he did it on purpose because he knows its a rebuilding year. Jim wants MHj, there is to much kismet involved for Jim not thinking it needs to happen. And he knew they needed to restock on corners so throw them to the fire, see what comes out and build off it. Problem is injuries and morons making it even worse.