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Old 12-05-2017, 11:07 AM
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The only thing worse than no accountability is inconsistent accountability. That's not a football thing that's a life thing.
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Old 12-05-2017, 11:23 AM
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Like others have said, I don't trust a word out of these dudes mouths
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Old 12-05-2017, 12:14 PM
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If it's true that he doesn't try hard in practice then his ass should be inactive. Period
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Old 12-05-2017, 12:49 PM
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If it's true that he doesn't try hard in practice then his ass should be inactive. Period
The key words being, “if it’s true “!!!!
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Old 12-05-2017, 12:58 PM
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The key words being, “if it’s true “!!!!
Of course it is.
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Old 12-05-2017, 01:01 PM
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Of course it is.
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Old 12-05-2017, 01:19 PM
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Edit. I meant it to say I agree the with his key words. Not saying of course it's true
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Old 12-05-2017, 01:28 PM
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I have so many thoughts here, still...

1. First and foremost, I don't trust this staff's player evaluation. At all. Maybe they're right, but they haven't earned any credibility to be assumed right.

2. There is clearly disconnect between what Ballard is saying (injury) and Monachino is saying (bad at practice).

3. You can't ignore your second-round pick in a lost season. The point isn't whether or not Wilson is good or playing well. Pagano/Monachino are approaching this as if it's a competitive season. No. It's a lost season. You don't learn anything from starting Kenny Moore at CB. And you can't go into what you hope is a competitive 2018 season with virtually no game tape on your second-round pick. That just can't be a question mark you have to address in 2018. There are too many already.

4. It remains a huge issue how much disconnect there is between owner/GM/coach on every damn thing with this team...
The only thing I would change is that I flat out just don't believe them. I think they are lying. With Vontae Davis and now with Quincy Wilson.
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pags and his staff dont care. They know (knew) they are getting fired at the end of the season so I doubt they really care how they handle a rookie they perceive as not putting forth the effort.

irsay fucked up by renewing pags and grigson, then deciding to fire grigson late such that he couldnt also replace an entire coaching staff.

ballard seems to have his head on straight so I hope he gets a quality staff together and we can move past the shit show of the last several years.
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The only thing I would change is that I flat out just don't believe them. I think they are lying. With Vontae Davis and now with Quincy Wilson.
Exactly. This staff has no credibility, starting with Pagano.
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