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Old 10-22-2017, 03:14 PM
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Nothing like watching a balanced team with no franchise QB beating the fuck out of a team that drafted one...
The team that drafted one did it to them for over a decade...and to the titans...and to the texans, and most of the league.

Here's the thing about your argument. The Jags have a ton of talent, but no franchise QB. They won't win a superbowl without one and they would give up anything to get one so they could compete for a superbowl. They didn't build their team like this because they WANTED to. They are building this way because they can't find a franchise QB, and that is holding them back.

I guarantee you that if you asked any GM in the league if they would prefer to start off with a franchise QB like Luck to build a team around, EVERY ONE OF THEM would say "hell yes".

Get out of here with your dumb ass argument.
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Old 10-24-2017, 08:55 AM
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I am told, by a source I trust, that Andrew Luck will not play this year. Which has obviously been mentioned many times.
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I am told, by a source I trust, that Andrew Luck will not play this year. Which has obviously been mentioned many times.
I'm OK with that, since by the time he could be ready, the playoffs will be out of reach. But, somehow the team needs to know that Luck will be 100+% for next year. Ideally he needs to see some kind of action when healthy in order to determine if the Colts need to address a starting QB need in the draft. Clearly, Jacoby is a #2 and IMO, will never be a quality starting QB.
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I'm OK with that, since by the time he could be ready, the playoffs will be out of reach. But, somehow the team needs to know that Luck will be 100+% for next year. Ideally he needs to see some kind of action when healthy in order to determine if the Colts need to address a starting QB need in the draft. Clearly, Jacoby is a #2 and IMO, will never be a quality starting QB.
I think Brisket could be more with better coaching. He's still a young player, and he's not developed enough to overcome the factors dragging him and this team down.
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The team that drafted one did it to them for over a decade...and to the titans...and to the texans, and most of the league.

Here's the thing about your argument. The Jags have a ton of talent, but no franchise QB. They won't win a superbowl without one and they would give up anything to get one so they could compete for a superbowl. They didn't build their team like this because they WANTED to. They are building this way because they can't find a franchise QB, and that is holding them back.

I guarantee you that if you asked any GM in the league if they would prefer to start off with a franchise QB like Luck to build a team around, EVERY ONE OF THEM would say "hell yes".

Get out of here with your dumb ass argument.
They drafted Bortles with a high pick because they thought he was gonna be one. They were wrong, but they absolutely have tried to get a franchise QB with a high draft pick.
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I'm OK with that, since by the time he could be ready, the playoffs will be out of reach. But, somehow the team needs to know that Luck will be 100+% for next year. Ideally he needs to see some kind of action when healthy in order to determine if the Colts need to address a starting QB need in the draft. Clearly, Jacoby is a #2 and IMO, will never be a quality starting QB.
He's just experiencing soreness when throwing, that's natural and part of the recovery. I have read where labrum tear can take 6-9 months to recover. They are at the 9 month end of it now. He's going to have to work through the soreness and he'll be fine. Supposedly it wasn't a complete tear like Bree's was, so I don't think there is any reason to worry about having to find another starting QB and such.

What they need to worry about is finding someone to actually protect him when he's back next season. This offensive line is a mess.
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They drafted Bortles with a high pick because they thought he was gonna be one. They were wrong, but they absolutely have tried to get a franchise QB with a high draft pick.
Yep and they failed, so the way they are building the team right now isn't because they chose to do it this way. They WANT a franchise QB....badly... they just can't get one. That goes to show how valuable franchise QB's are and why you don't just let one go when you find one and expect you can just find another anytime you want. There are teams out there who haven't had one for decades, and their franchises are worse off for it.
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He's just experiencing soreness when throwing, that's natural and part of the recovery. I have read where labrum tear can take 6-9 months to recover. They are at the 9 month end of it now. He's going to have to work through the soreness and he'll be fine. Supposedly it wasn't a complete tear like Bree's was, so I don't think there is any reason to worry about having to find another starting QB and such.

What they need to worry about is finding someone to actually protect him when he's back next season. This offensive line is a mess.
I'm sure you're right about Luck, I just would rather KNOW you're right.
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The team that drafted one did it to them for over a decade...and to the titans...and to the texans, and most of the league.
Two Super Bowls, one win. Manning caried them there. He had parts of the puzzle in place. Luck isn't Manning, hell BRADY isn't Manning. Name a "franchise " QB that gets this team anywhere for the next several years. IF they survive the beating

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Here's the thing about your argument. The Jags have a ton of talent, but no franchise QB. They won't win a superbowl without one and they would give up anything to get one so they could compete for a superbowl. They didn't build their team like this because they WANTED to. They are building this way because they can't find a franchise QB, and that is holding them back.
27 to 0, we won't be competetive with them for about 4-5 years now.Or Hoston, or Nashville..Or the Jets or ANYBODY but CLeveland maybe.
Luck is damaged goods. Maybe we get a shot at another franchise QB this year, and next.... and the year after. Drafting first does result in opportunity to draft fanchise QBs. Maybe that's the plan, draft one every few years!

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I guarantee you that if you asked any GM in the league if they would prefer to start off with a franchise QB like Luck to build a team around, EVERY ONE OF THEM would say "hell yes".
KC builds a solid team, adds Alex Smith...
OAKLAND Derek Carr, 36th pick
Case Keenum Vikings5-2
Bills, Tyrod Taylor LMAO 6th round pick 4-2
Miami 4-2 with Cutler?
Dak Prescott 4th round.. he just beat the fuck outta a team on their field by 30 we BARELY managed to beat at home

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Get out of here with your dumb ass argument.
My "dumbass arguement"seems pretty not dumbass compared to completely obvious statements like "every GM wants a franchise QB"
No kidding moron. Really?
But here's a gold plated fact, everyone of those teams I just listed are a shit load better than us and not a damn franchise QB in the lot that YOU"D trade Luck for.
Now ask all those drooling GMs if they'd trade TEAMS, give up their solid TEAMS for Luck. What would they give? Which team
The answer is no.

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Two Super Bowls, one win. Manning caried them there. He had parts of the puzzle in place. Luck isn't Manning, hell BRADY isn't Manning. Name a "franchise " QB that gets this team anywhere for the next several years. IF they survive the beating



27 to 0, we won't be competetive with them for about 4-5 years now.Or Hoston, or Nashville..Or the Jets or ANYBODY but CLeveland maybe.
Luck is damaged goods. Maybe we get a shot at another franchise QB this year, and next.... and the year after. Drafting first does result in opportunity to draft fanchise QBs. Maybe that's the plan, draft one every few years!



KC builds a solid team, adds Alex Smith...
OAKLAND Derek Carr, 36th pick
Case Keenum Vikings5-2
Bills, Tyrod Taylor LMAO 6th round pick 4-2
Miami 4-2 with Cutler?
Dak Prescott 4th round.. he just beat the fuck outta a team on their field by 30 we BARELY managed to beat at home



My "dumbass arguement"seems pretty not dumbass compared to completely obvious statements like "every GM wants a franchise QB"
No kidding moron. Really?
But here's a gold plated fact, everyone of those teams I just listed are a shit load better than us and not a damn franchise QB in the lot that YOU"D trade Luck for.
Now ask all those drooling GMs if they'd trade TEAMS, give up their solid TEAMS for Luck. What would they give? Which team
The answer is no.
Serious question: What do you consider the definitionof a franchise QB to be, because it seems that you really don't know what it is, based on this post.

Also, if you replace the Moron in charge, this team will look immensely better.
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