Its the offseason thread

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by ChoppedWood

Nabers or Odunze should be sitting there- we have to take one of those two. This team demonstrated with Steichen at the helm, it could manufacture points with a very limited set of playmakers starting with a pop-gun QB, give Steichen AR with Pittman, Downs, one of those two and likely Pierce, this thing could be stupid explosive.

If no worthy pass rusher is there and Nabers is, you have to pick him. Everything about his game reminds me of Reggie Wayne.

[ChaosTheory]

If there is a top-end WR you can realistically get, get him. But if not, I don't sweat our WR room. Our 1,2,3 will almost certainly be intact. I'll eat my own face if we don't re-sign Pittman. These guys will all have more opportunity with AR's arm talent and overall impact.

With Pass-Rusher... over the years I've just become reserved to the fact that there just aren't many of them. I'm talking about the guys that OC's have to gameplan directly against. It's like winning a scratch-off. Most of the time they're gone with premium picks (and most of the time even those picks don't pan out). And if any do happen to make it to free-agency... why? They're either low character, injured, or unrealistically expensive.

Aside from that, seems to me that the best shot might be to have an underrated kid fall slightly in the draft. And not even like a TJ Watt falling to #30 overall. But like JJ Watt or Demarcus Ware or Dwight Freeney... all three of these guys were taken at #11 overall instead of top-3 or top-5 like they probably should've been with hindsight.

So do you use your top pick on a scratch off? Or do you roll with your DL that isn't spectacular, but is solid/deep... and use that pick elsewhere? I don't know.

[Racehorse]

Originally Posted by ChaosTheory

If there is a top-end WR you can realistically get, get him. But if not, I don't sweat our WR room. Our 1,2,3 will almost certainly be intact. I'll eat my own face if we don't re-sign Pittman. These guys will all have more opportunity with AR's arm talent and overall impact.

With Pass-Rusher... over the years I've just become reserved to the fact that there just aren't many of them. I'm talking about the guys that OC's have to gameplan directly against. It's like winning a scratch-off. Most of the time they're gone with premium picks (and most of the time even those picks don't pan out). And if any do happen to make it to free-agency... why? They're either low character, injured, or unrealistically expensive.

Aside from that, seems to me that the best shot might be to have an underrated kid fall slightly in the draft. And not even like a TJ Watt falling to #30 overall. But like JJ Watt or Demarcus Ware or Dwight Freeney... all three of these guys were taken at #11 overall instead of top-3 or top-5 like they probably should've been with hindsight.

So do you use your top pick on a scratch off? Or do you roll with your DL that isn't spectacular, but is solid/deep... and use that pick elsewhere? I don't know.

I would like to see us add a CB to our mix. Anything to get Baker off the field. That could be the first or second round. That said, BPA in round 1, at position of need.

[ChoppedWood]

Originally Posted by ChoppedWood

Hate to say it, and hard to say it after a season where we broke the sack record, but I think you have to find a new DC. Bradley is just too damn stubborn and willing to let opposing offenses click off 7-12 yard dink and dunk plays all game long. We constantly allow QB's to get in early rhythm and consume clock creating a scenario where every single offensive possession feels like it is a must score situation.

Wow, this may have been posted somewhere previously and if so, sorry for not picking up on it. Collins was targeted 9 times, caught 9 passes for 195. That's it, that's the end, no way you keep Gus Bradley after that- and I don't give a F if it was me out there at CB---- he was the ONLY thing you had do game plan for in the pass receiving scheme and you let him do that---- nope, F that, DC must go after that type of bullshit in the biggest game of the year.

[Dewey 5]

I think I’m tried of Chris Ballard’s bullshit 8 year rebuild. He hasn’t won shit. No division titles & not one home playoff game. This next year should be make or break for him

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by ChaosTheory

If there is a top-end WR you can realistically get, get him. But if not, I don't sweat our WR room. Our 1,2,3 will almost certainly be intact. I'll eat my own face if we don't re-sign Pittman. These guys will all have more opportunity with AR's arm talent and overall impact.

With Pass-Rusher... over the years I've just become reserved to the fact that there just aren't many of them. I'm talking about the guys that OC's have to gameplan directly against. It's like winning a scratch-off. Most of the time they're gone with premium picks (and most of the time even those picks don't pan out). And if any do happen to make it to free-agency... why? They're either low character, injured, or unrealistically expensive.

Aside from that, seems to me that the best shot might be to have an underrated kid fall slightly in the draft. And not even like a TJ Watt falling to #30 overall. But like JJ Watt or Demarcus Ware or Dwight Freeney... all three of these guys were taken at #11 overall instead of top-3 or top-5 like they probably should've been with hindsight.

So do you use your top pick on a scratch off? Or do you roll with your DL that isn't spectacular, but is solid/deep... and use that pick elsewhere? I don't know.

Look at the sack leaderboard list. Aside from seeing why Justin Madubuike is about to get PAID, you'll see that many of those players were drafted much later than the top 15. Lots are actually late 3rd/early 4th round picks, oddly enough. Maybe it would be better to pay Danielle Hunter and draft Malik Nabers, if he's available, that is.

[YDFL Commish]

Originally Posted by ChoppedWood

Wow, this may have been posted somewhere previously and if so, sorry for not picking up on it. Collins was targeted 9 times, caught 9 passes for 195. That's it, that's the end, no way you keep Gus Bradley after that- and I don't give a F if it was me out there at CB---- he was the ONLY thing you had do game plan for in the pass receiving scheme and you let him do that---- nope, F that, DC must go after that type of bullshit in the biggest game of the year.

Almost the same thing with Devante Adams the week before. No plan to take away the oppositions main pass caching weapon has become a trend.

A trend that has to end.

[Hoopsdoc]

At Steichens press conference this morning, he made it pretty clear they want Bradley back.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by YDFL Commish

Almost the same thing with Devante Adams the week before. No plan to take away the oppositions main pass caching weapon has become a trend.

A trend that has to end.

Or maybe that's just a thing that can happen with young secondaries? I know Davante's second TD was just a great play by him and honestly couldn't have really been defended better.

[HoosierinFL]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

Or maybe that's just a thing that can happen with young secondaries? I know Davante's second TD was just a great play by him and honestly couldn't have really been defended better.

Thats my view. We just need experience and some key additions to this secondary and maybe even some improvement in pass-covering LBs to sub in on passing downs.