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Old 12-27-2021, 12:28 PM
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Assuming those guys are vaxxed, they’re not in danger of missing the game Sunday, correct? It’s the unvaccinated that are the concern.
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Old 12-27-2021, 12:38 PM
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Actions speak louder than words. Someone can claim to be a "team player" in every press conference in which they participate in, but their actions will bear out whether or not they really are team-first players ...... and a glaring example that exhibits a player's attitude toward his team's goals is his choice to be (or not be) vaccinated.

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Old 12-27-2021, 01:48 PM
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We may not win this week and that’s a tough one for the last home game of the year, but Frank will find a way to keep the team inspired and with a win in Jack-off-ville we should be riding high into the playoffs…I hope.
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false equivalence, establish why the 10-day rule is wrong first. Your feels are not fact. .
What? False equivalence? First? Anyhow, not that I expect any of this to be read, but...

Ok, the main issue I have with the 10-day rule and the NFL's covid protocols in general is the inconsistency. For example, starting today NFL personnel are not considered fully vaccinated (and thus cannot keep their positions) unless they have booster shots. NFL players on the other hand are still considered fully vaccinated like before and are only encouraged to get boosted.

Well, which is it? We just have two definitions of "fully vaccinated" now?

As for the 10-day rule itself... So 10 days is the line they've drawn that says after this point, we're not too worried about you spreading the virus. That's for vaccinated and unvaccinated according to CDC. It's not for an individual's well-being, it's to mitigate the spread. Everyone spreads this, as we've seen in the NFL.

Especially Omicron. Why do you think they went 14 weeks smooth and then all of a sudden hell breaks loose? A week ago, NFL Chief Medical Officer said they had guys testing positive who were fully vaccinated AND boosted AND had already recovered from covid. The Holy Trinity of protection and guys still catch it and spread it.

But despite all that... vaccinated players don't really test anymore unless they're symptomatic, which is self-reported, so we've got a bunch of asymptomatic positives spreading this thing like crazy. And if they do test positive or are symptomatic, they're able to come back sooner via negative rapid tests OR apparently now they're actually going to check their Cycle Threshold values to see how much covid they have and if it's enough to be contagious. All of a sudden nuance is a thing.

Meanwhile the you-know-who's are still tested every single day and if they're positive... Fuck it. Gone. You weren't a good boy so no options.
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Glow and Smith are vaxed. Glow should be back for the next game.

Problem is the Raiders have the best pass rush pressure rate in the NFL and blitz the least in the league. So 8 defenders are dropping back.
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Meanwhile the you-know-who's are still tested every single day and if they're positive... Fuck it. Gone. You weren't a good boy so no options.
If the NFL wants to play this dumbass game then that’s on them; None of this is necessary. They should have just mandated the vax. I don’t agree with it, but logically that is what should have been done.

Maybe next season the policies will be more clear/logical.
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What? False equivalence? First? Anyhow, not that I expect any of this to be read, but...

Ok, the main issue I have with the 10-day rule and the NFL's covid protocols in general is the inconsistency. For example, starting today NFL personnel are not considered fully vaccinated (and thus cannot keep their positions) unless they have booster shots. NFL players on the other hand are still considered fully vaccinated like before and are only encouraged to get boosted.

Well, which is it? We just have two definitions of "fully vaccinated" now?

As for the 10-day rule itself... So 10 days is the line they've drawn that says after this point, we're not too worried about you spreading the virus. That's for vaccinated and unvaccinated according to CDC. It's not for an individual's well-being, it's to mitigate the spread. Everyone spreads this, as we've seen in the NFL.

Especially Omicron. Why do you think they went 14 weeks smooth and then all of a sudden hell breaks loose? A week ago, NFL Chief Medical Officer said they had guys testing positive who were fully vaccinated AND boosted AND had already recovered from covid. The Holy Trinity of protection and guys still catch it and spread it.

But despite all that... vaccinated players don't really test anymore unless they're symptomatic, which is self-reported, so we've got a bunch of asymptomatic positives spreading this thing like crazy. And if they do test positive or are symptomatic, they're able to come back sooner via negative rapid tests OR apparently now they're actually going to check their Cycle Threshold values to see how much covid they have and if it's enough to be contagious. All of a sudden nuance is a thing.

Meanwhile the you-know-who's are still tested every single day and if they're positive... Fuck it. Gone. You weren't a good boy so no options.
Why are NFL personnel and NFL players treated differently? Because of the NFL players union. Remember, the protocols in place for the players were negotiated between the players union and the NFL. That agreement doesn’t affect coaches and other NFL personnel. There are inconsistencies because a segment of the country acts like little bitches whining about any inconvenience they may experience, and in this case the power of collective bargaining gave them better negotiating power.

Same with the treatment of vaccinated and unvaccinated players. Without incentive to get vaccinated what do you think the vaccination rate in the NFL would be? So the players and NFL negotiated and agreed to less restrictions on vaccinated players. It’s not that damn hard to understand. People can bitch about it all they want, but that’s what the NFL AND the players agreed to. And yet people still whine that it’s unfair to the poor selfish assholes who refuse to do their part. Does it all make logical or “scientific” sense? No. But almost anyone who whines about it would whine about the restrictions that would makes sense anyway.

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If the NFL wants to play this dumbass game then that’s on them; None of this is necessary. They should have just mandated the vax. I don’t agree with it, but logically that is what should have been done.

Maybe next season the policies will be more clear/logical.
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I would guess the players union would vote against anything the league wants to do next year that limits their availability for games. They all see how some teams have been wrecked this year by this, and just want to play the game they all love without the side show.
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