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Old 08-20-2025, 07:03 PM
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I think Steichen thinks Jones is capable, with JT and Giddens, of running a ball control offense that can score enough points to win lots of close games and if the defense is improved enough he may be right? That was something I thought Matt Ryan could do and we know how that worked out. Maybe Jones can do what Ryan couldn't?
This is my hope.
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Film breakdown on how Jones outperformed AR:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1obpRS_Mz-M
Great analysis by PFF. I would also like to add the commentators that actually, know football, such as Pat Kirwan, Jim Miller, and Chris Simms are adamant that Jones should be the starter.
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Old 08-20-2025, 07:38 PM
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I have a hard time considering that whining. He was asked a direct question, and he answered it honestly.
Poor word choice on my part.

Nevertheless, typically he is not that transparent.

At least in my opinion.
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It's not my fault, I type on a message board and spend my money on this shit, his fucking lame ass gets paid to suck- crazy !!!



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Actually, it is your fault ....... all your fault.


A) l Nobody is putting a gun at your head, and forcing you to post on a Colts message board.

B) l Nobody is putting a gun at your head, and forcing you to buy tickets to Colts games, spend money on Colts memorabilia, and/or buy food and drinks at Lucas Oil Stadium.

C) l Nobody is putting a gun at your head, and forcing you to invest your emotions into Indianapolis Colts games to the point of being a raving madman, foaming at the mouth.



Your constant and incessant rage is not Anthony Richardson's fault because he completes less than 50% of his passes. It's not Jonathan Taylor's fault because he drops the ball at the goal-line like an imbecile. It's not the cornerback's fault, who gets burned on 3rd-and-long late in the 4th quarter of a crucial game. It's not the tight end's fault, who whiffs on a block and allows a blitzing linebacker to demolish the Colts' quarterback. And it's not Chris Ballard's fault, because he doesn't make the roster moves that you want him to make. It's your fault. Take some responsibility for your behavior ...... you're a fucking nutcase, which coincidentally allows you to fit right in here with the rest of us here on ColtFreaks.

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I am not sure that Jones was the real problem with the Giants, they were just a truly terrible roster from top to bottom in his last few seasons. I don't think Mahomes would have been able to get that roster to above 500. I like Chris Simms and he is a massive Giants fan, he was always saying that Jones was a long way down the list of reasons why the Giants were so bad.
Yet guys like Tommy Devito and Drew Lock were able to outperform Jones w/ the same players surrounding them
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Old 08-21-2025, 07:11 AM
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Actually, it is your fault ....... all your fault.


A) l Nobody is putting a gun at your head, and forcing you to post on a Colts message board.

B) l Nobody is putting a gun at your head, and forcing you to buy tickets to Colts games, spend money on Colts memorabilia, and/or buy food and drinks at Lucas Oil Stadium.

C) l Nobody is putting a gun at your head, and forcing you to invest your emotions into Indianapolis Colts games to the point of being a raving madman, foaming at the mouth.



Your constant and incessant rage is not Anthony Richardson's fault because he completes less than 50% of his passes. It's not Jonathan Taylor's fault because he drops the ball at the goal-line like an imbecile. It's not the cornerback's fault, who gets burned on 3rd-and-long late in the 4th quarter of a crucial game. It's not the tight end's fault, who whiffs on a block and allows a blitzing linebacker to demolish the Colts' quarterback. And it's not Chris Ballard's fault, because he doesn't make the roster moves that you want him to make. It's your fault. Take some responsibility for your behavior ...... you're a fucking nutcase, which coincidentally allows you to fit right in here with the rest of us here on ColtFreaks.

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Well, I appreciate you pointing out my madness, which is legit.
However, the not my fault point is valid, pretty much every thing that goes on with this team is Chris Ballard's at some level, and over a 10 year period, there's been a LOT go on with this team that is just not good.

It's kind of crazy to think that this is a team that not that long ago was lauded as one of the premiere teams / organizations in the entire NFL and now, man we are pretty much a trash ass joke of an organization that repeatedly steps on our own dick. At some point, just like any company in corp America, you stop looking at the workers and you look at the leadership as the company spirals. Our leadership is 100% terrible and it is impossible to refute that.
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Old 08-21-2025, 07:29 AM
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Will they trade AR?
I doubt it. I am sure that in the back of Steichen's mind he sees some sliver of an opportunity for this to be another push for growth from AR. I would guess he believes that this will finally be the moment that he understands how much goes into being the QB1 of an NFL franchise and believes that there is an outside chance that when DJ gets hurt- and he will- AR will come in and be the phoenix that will lead us to a title and prove to everyone Steichen was smart to make him earn it.

However - the ONLY prudent decision is to move him! He's the backup, everyone loves the backup when things start looking bad for the incumbent- and this is DJ- that is GOING to happen. The fans are already restless, just wait for the first 10-27, 3 INT, 1 Fumble, 1 TD 38-10 loss, just wait. There will be riots in the streets demanding AR and lest we forget Steichen has already proven he is a puss when it comes to needing to quiet the voices. Look over his tenure, he has really shown himself to be a giant wussy.

They created this monster when they let him start right out of the gate, there is a large contingent of fans that will stand in AR's corner no matter. So do the smart thing, and move him to avoid this drama. Get whatever you can, doesn't even matter, just get something. He will go somewhere, hold the clip board, and by week 5 there won't be any talk of him until he comes in for whoever gets hurt---- but it will be drama for another team, not ours!

Someone made the comment about the Lose-Lose of DJ and the Win-Win with AR, and that point is so well made. This fanbase is furious at how poor this team has been top to bottom over the past 15 years. There is real apathy all stemming from the QB spin cycle, people are tired of it. DJ is a 6-11 to 10-7 range QB= continued mediocrity with no QB solution in sight. AR is a 2-15 to 15-2 QB= something gives at the end of the year no matter, you either suck so bad you can replace him with another high ability prospect (hell no Chris Ballard should never ever again in his life be given a chance to even say a QB's name let alone hire one), or you win the SB and your QB of the future is in place for another decade + (extremely unlikely but that is AR's potential).

MOVE HIM. DJ plays the season, we probably win 9-10 games and now we have a huge QB problem- can you imagine him either barely missing the PO's or sneaking us in, and the rage if we re-sign him to some big dollar contract? DJ gets hurt game 4 and AR comes in, we're probably headed toward another 7-10 win season (the dude does have a winning record despite all the shitty stats). That is by far the worst thing that could happen= continued QB purgatory. DJ gets hurt game 4 and Leonard comes in, we're probably looking at 4-5 total wins and we can start the whole QB process over with a high pick----- AND NO FUCKING BALLARD TO FUCKING RUIN IT!

The choice is a no-brainer---- MOVE AR!
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Old 08-21-2025, 09:22 AM
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Well, I appreciate you pointing out my madness, which is legit.
However, the not my fault point is valid, pretty much every thing that goes on with this team is Chris Ballard's at some level, and over a 10 year period, there's been a LOT go on with this team that is just not good.

It's kind of crazy to think that this is a team that not that long ago was lauded as one of the premiere teams / organizations in the entire NFL and now, man we are pretty much a trash ass joke of an organization that repeatedly steps on our own dick. At some point, just like any company in corp America, you stop looking at the workers and you look at the leadership as the company spirals. Our leadership is 100% terrible and it is impossible to refute that.
We're all fans here and we're all entitled to express out feelings about this team. And speaking for me, I'm getting on in years and sometimes forgetful. So I find it refreshing to be reminded over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again

how much my favorite team is a trash ass joke of an organization that repeatedly steps on our own dick and how it's all Chris Ballard's fault. So keep it up, because speaking for me, it's important to be reminded, to be reminded

over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.
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Old 08-21-2025, 09:51 AM
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My only real hope for this team is Carlee. Hopefully she can rebuild this organization and lead it to relevance again. When Steichen named Jones to state to me he needs to be fired. He was a huge fanboy of AR. He had one job, one. He was hired as a QB guru for AR and failed miserably. Ballard was just as horrible. Can you folks name me one person that had experience and was there in the QB room for AR to learn from. Minshaw was a cool dude but not teacher type and Ryan specifically said he wasnt' here to help mentor AR (WTF are you hiring him for then when the most important thing is to develop the young QB). Don't even get me started on the Cam Turner-his major accomplishment seems to be Norv Turners nephew. Who exactly was AR going to learn the ropes from? From what I have read and heard nobody really had a detailed plan as how to train AR. AR needed big time help. He played college football from 2020-2022 and his first year here was 2023. All those years were COVID years, anyone who tried to learn remotely knows how shittly that was. That is all Anthony got. This has been a shit organization recently.
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Old 08-21-2025, 10:24 AM
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Everybody acts like they benched Manning. Richardson sucked, period. You can put sprinkles on shit and call it ice cream, but its still shit. Jones just sucks a little less. I'm still gonna watch and go to the games my schedule allows, even if I know it is in despair with a predictable outcome!
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