Colts Release Leonard

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by Oldcolt

Yes I understand that this shoulder has been injured before. An injured AC joint weakens that joint and makes that joint more prone to injury. It has been repaired and should not be an issue going forward, one of the reasons surgery was the best options. It means nothing else. It certainly doesn't mean he is injury prone.

Again, my heart is with you, my head will need to see evidence.

[Racehorse]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

You don't think he's lost value in the last eight months?

No. He was coming off an injury that cost him a huge chunk of games. There was no guarantee he would return to form. Had the Colts shopped him then, the league would have thought we knew something about his recovery, and stayed away.

[Racehorse]

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

What trade value do you think he had? A sixth?

Dam thinks we could have packaged him and Taylor to move up and get Stroud. He thinks the NFL is just like Madden.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by Racehorse

Dam thinks we could have packaged him and Taylor to move up and get Stroud. He thinks the NFL is just like Madden.

I think they are pieces that could've been moved as part of a deal that could have lowered the draft capital cost of the trade. 4, 36, Taylor, and Leonard for 1 isn't exactly a Madden trade, but IMO would've beaten the Panthers offer.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by Racehorse

No. He was coming off an injury that cost him a huge chunk of games. There was no guarantee he would return to form. Had the Colts shopped him then, the league would have thought we knew something about his recovery, and stayed away.

There was doubt then, now there's certainty that he's been released. At the very least he's lost value to the Colts in that time, possibly the whole league.

[albany ed]

Dallas is showing interest in Leonard.

[Racehorse]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

There was doubt then, now there's certainty that he's been released. At the very least he's lost value to the Colts in that time, possibly the whole league.

Keep saying you are the only one right on every thread. Nobody will think you are an arrogant fella at all.

[IndyNorm]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

I think they are pieces that could've been moved as part of a deal that could have lowered the draft capital cost of the trade. 4, 36, Taylor, and Leonard for 1 isn't exactly a Madden trade, but IMO would've beaten the Panthers offer.

You're WAY overestimating Leonard's trade value last year. He was completely ineffective coming off a major back surgery, so he had to have a 2nd major back surgery. With his contract he likely would have garnered a conditional late round pick, not the 2nd/3rd you seem to think he was worth.

Also, you seem to be forgetting that Ballard priorities physical traits over everything else w/ his draft picks. So it's pretty likely that he had AR rated higher than Stroud on his draft board to begin with.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by Racehorse

Keep saying you are the only one right on every thread. Nobody will think you are an arrogant fella at all.

I didn't say that.

Originally Posted by IndyNorm

You're WAY overestimating Leonard's trade value last year. He was completely ineffective coming off a major back surgery, so he had to have a 2nd major back surgery. With his contract he likely would have garnered a conditional late round pick, not the 2nd/3rd you seem to think he was worth.

Also, you seem to be forgetting that Ballard priorities physical traits over everything else w/ his draft picks. So it's pretty likely that he had AR rated higher than Stroud on his draft board to begin with.

Agree to disagree I guess, he did still have 3 All-Pro seasons leading up to the injured year, including back to back selections prior to 2022. Say Fred Warner was coming off a similar situation to Leonard at the end of this season. You'd be upset at the Colts giving up a 3 to get the chance that he returns to prime form?

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Jim Irsay sent him out in style ......



Recently Cut LB Shaquille Leonard Gets Tribute From the Colts

(By Stephen Holder)

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...-tribute-colts

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