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Old 04-20-2017, 08:13 AM
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Reddick. Is. Not. A. ILB. In. This. System.
AN. ILB. Not. A. ILB.
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Old 04-20-2017, 08:24 AM
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RB in RD1 is definitely not my first choice, but I think if Fournette were to fall to 1-15 then we seriously entertain taking him, or seeing if anyone is willing to trade up with a load of picks
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Old 04-20-2017, 08:31 AM
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And anyone else whose watched his tape.
Link to "anyone else" that watched his tape and deemed he couldn't possibly be a 3-4 ILB and that he absolutely has to be a 3-4 OLB?
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Old 04-20-2017, 08:33 AM
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Ignoring both LB and CB for the first two rounds would cause both Puck and I to have a stroke.

At least we wouldn't be arguing with each other anymore at that point.
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Ignoring both LB and CB for the first two rounds would cause both Puck and I to have a stroke.

At least we wouldn't be arguing with each other anymore at that point.
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Old 04-20-2017, 09:17 AM
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Almost like a Jamie Collins when he was with the Pats. I like it.

But i think you can still get great value for a Raekwon Mcmillian in the 2nd, and pull the trigger on a CB or a olinemen in the 1st.

There are no decent pass rushers that are worth the 15th pick in the draft without reaching. People will say Barnett, but he is more of a 43 DE than anything else if you want to be honest with yourself. Thats if he is still there.
Barnett is a 2nd round talent. But will likely go in the first. Takk and Harris are worth the pick. Takk will need some coaching and skill development but he has the athletsism to be drafted there. I hope they stay away from Barnett.
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I would say no to Fournette, will need 20-25 carries a game to be effective. And is he only a two down back? I would look for a more versatile 3 down back and you can get one in the 4th or 5th. We have a shot at a elite defensive talent and someone almost always falls draft day because teams force QBs higher than they should be taken. And usually one overrated receiver who is more athlete than football player is in there.
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If this is what BPA looks like......

Stud RB in the first round. Not our top need IMO but it would help our offense start scoring points in gobs. One way to skin the cat, I guess.

McDowell would be a 5-tech DE in our scheme. Sounds like most of his problems are coaching related so if our D-Line coach can get him to work....

NT = Hankins, Woods
DT = Anderson, Ridgeway
DE = Langford, McDowell
Depth guys fighting for 7th spot = McGill, Parry, Hunt

Eluemunor is not a terrible prospect in the 3rd round. We don't necessarily need immediate help at RG; one of Haeg, Good or Schwenke can win the position for 2017.

However, Eluemunor has some physical skills that are pretty high ceiling for someone who might get drafted in the 3rd / 4th round. Almost everything negative in his multiple draft profiles that I just read were all about his technique and relative lack of fottball experience......much like Le'Raven Clark last year.

There is one consensus 1st round OG in this years draft: Lamp. His combine performance was good and placed him at the head of the class.

After him, there are about 10 guys who are lumped into the 2nd/3rd round draft area. Of those 10 guys, Eluemunor has the combine/pro day results to rank him in the top 3 of them pretty much across the board (except for 20-yard shuttle; he was 4th there).

I trust Philbin to take a guy who has the physical skills and mental ability to play in the NFL and have him refine his technique so that he can excel. He did a great job with Clark last year and getting Haeg ready to play all over the place.

I still want an ALL DEFENSE top of the draft but if BPA brings us O-line and Running Back......okay, I guess.

Cheers,

I might go Wormley with the 2nd. He doesn't have McDowell's ceiling. But his floor is real high and he could be a real terror at 5tech DE. A good player for a decade. I almost prefer that to McDowell's stop and go motor.
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I wish I trusted our coaching staff enough to grab a guy like Takk McKinley and develop him.

I most certainly do not.

Give me the guy that's more NFL-ready, that's more plug-and-play, particularly at pass rush.
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